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Old 01-09-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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Old 01-09-2014, 12:56 PM
 
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so everyone should get an IT job?
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:32 PM
 
Location: New York City
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so everyone should get an IT job?
It’s not about everyone. It’s about diversifying and expanding the pool of well-paying jobs in the city. The more options the better, in my opinion.
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:56 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Joke of an article, IT jobs in NYC is to support the money printing machines such as the stock market and other financial and legal related industries. These are industries that are not interested in the latest tech, they are only interested in how to make money faster and those IT people like myself are only here to serve money makers.

There isn't any hi-tech ideas because reinvented or designed here like out in the west coast or in other research & development heavy cities.

This city is only interested in revenue generating tech.
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Old 01-09-2014, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Manhattan, New York (Hell's Kitchen)
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Anything that diversifies our economy away from its historic over-reliance on financial services is good. History has rarely been kind to one industry cities.
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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While not entirely false, it's far from true. Finance has always driven a good chunk of the IT market in NYC, but it's share is shrinking, and others are increasing. Google, IAC, and others have a big footprint, and there's a growing startup scene.

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Joke of an article, IT jobs in NYC is to support the money printing machines such as the stock market and other financial and legal related industries. These are industries that are not interested in the latest tech, they are only interested in how to make money faster and those IT people like myself are only here to serve money makers.

There isn't any hi-tech ideas because reinvented or designed here like out in the west coast or in other research & development heavy cities.

This city is only interested in revenue generating tech.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:10 PM
 
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While not entirely false, it's far from true. Finance has always driven a good chunk of the IT market in NYC, but it's share is shrinking, and others are increasing. Google, IAC, and others have a big footprint, and there's a growing startup scene.
The tech and digital space in NYC is very large. Obviously not as large as San Fran but large none the less. Some major players in the digital space were started in NYC. Some you've probably heard of, tumblr, Fab, Gilt ,meetup, foursquare, shutterstock, etsy. There are also hundreds of others that you likely will never have heard
of unless you work within the industry. These are the companies that power your web experience and do things like deliver ads (far more complicated process than you think because it involves ad networks, ad exchanges, ad servers, etc).
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:22 PM
 
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The tech and digital space in NYC is very large. Obviously not as large as San Fran but large none the less. Some major players in the digital space were started in NYC. Some you've probably heard of, tumblr, Fab, Gilt ,meetup, foursquare, shutterstock, etsy. There are also hundreds of others that you likely will never have heard
of unless you work within the industry. These are the companies that power your web experience and do things like deliver ads (far more complicated process than you think because it involves ad networks, ad exchanges, ad servers, etc).
Those companies are not tech, they are all media companies riding on tech. These so called tech companies are just today's version of the Madison ave ad agency that are quickly dying fast. Magazine companies are a dying breed and these new social media based companies replaced them. They are not tech, they just use tech as a medium.

Just like Google was only ad/media in the 00' and not they are transforming into a service/tech I still think they are ad because Android is nothing but a platform for them to run their ads and collect data.
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:55 PM
 
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Those companies are not tech, they are all media companies riding on tech. These so called tech companies are just today's version of the Madison ave ad agency that are quickly dying fast. Magazine companies are a dying breed and these new social media based companies replaced them. They are not tech, they just use tech as a medium.

Just like Google was only ad/media in the 00' and not they are transforming into a service/tech I still think they are ad because Android is nothing but a platform for them to run their ads and collect data.
They are web or digital based companies, which in order to function require a heavy amount of technology and coding. Some like fab and gilt may sell goods but don't have a brick and mortar component so they are web or digital companies, which are "tech". Google is a tech company. It's always been one. It started out as a search engine and there is a whole lot of "technology" behind getting a search listing to appear. It's "Internet technology". To argue otherwise means you don't understand the space. Also as I mentioned before, there are countless other companies that operate behind the scenes. A company like AppNexus most of you may have never heard of but they are major players in how you end up getting served advertising. It's not a media company it's an AdTech company. There are a lot of companies like this that are "Internet tech" or AdTech in NYC. Hell NYCs AdTech convention is one of the biggest. Thousands of vendors in the space come here every November.
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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They are web or digital based companies, which in order to function require a heavy amount of technology and coding. Some like fab and gilt may sell goods but don't have a brick and mortar component so they are web or digital companies, which are "tech". Google is a tech company. It's always been one. It started out as a search engine and there is a whole lot of "technology" behind getting a search listing to appear. It's "Internet technology". To argue otherwise means you don't understand the space. Also as I mentioned before, there are countless other companies that operate behind the scenes. A company like AppNexus most of you may have never heard of but they are major players in how you end up getting served advertising. It's not a media company it's an AdTech company. There are a lot of companies like this that are "Internet tech" or AdTech in NYC. Hell NYCs AdTech convention is one of the biggest. Thousands of vendors in the space come here every November.
Agreed with what you said, like to add that I also think whether you consider a company to be a "tech" company depends on the level of technological sophistication that's used in their product. If an online electronics company hired someone to build a website based off some template then I wouldn't consider them a tech company. However if they start delving into and make effective use of more advance techniques requiring higher levels of technological know-how like implementing their own Cassandra/Hive/Hadoop big data solution along with their own custom coded internal server side application that integrates the big data solution with the more traditional RDMS based system used on the web front and this becomes an effective solution then I would consider them at least a quasi tech company. e.g Netflix is as much a technology company as it is a movie rental company, not to mention they pay top dollar, e.g. a senior soft engineer at Netflix gets paid about 200k on average.

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