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I saw an interesting video today about an urbanist visionary but also theorist who used to live in Greenwich Village as a kid. He noted that plenty of urban planners try to replicate Greenwich Village with its Bohemian style in order to start gentrification. If you fast forward to 4 or 5 minutes in the video, you can see 1960s Bohemian East Village which is not much different than todays East Village which is full of Yuppies and Hipsters. The guy Kotkin even noted that during the 1960s that the East Village was already Yuppie Disneyland.
I agree but to nywriterdudes credit, he doesn't even live around here so how would he really know.
Part of it bordering Williamsburg are predominately white. There are a lot of Hasidic Jews there ,and then not far away you have the hipsterization.
It was like that LONG BEFORE I moved away. And when did I move away? Late 2013. It amazes me people have selective memories when it suits their purposes.
Part of it bordering Williamsburg are predominately white. There are a lot of Hasidic Jews there ,and then not far away you have the hipsterization.
It was like that LONG BEFORE I moved away. And when did I move away? Late 2013. It amazes me people have selective memories when it suits their purposes.
I'll give you that, part of the western side but not the whole thing. Only north of Myrtle or Dekalb due to the Hasidics, but even then, for every Hasidic building there is an even bigger project building just one census tract to the east. Still, by the next census, I would't be surprised if all the western census tracts end up being predominantly white.
Hasidic Jews moving into Bed Stuy isn't due to gentrification, but due to overpopulation in Williamsburg. Even still, Bed Stuy is around 70% Black. Maybe one or two white people is just too much.
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I think the point he is trying to make is that you can have a low-income neighborhood of color, and have it get an influx of middle class people of color, and nobody writes articles, nobody talks about it as changing, and to the rest of the world the neighborhood hasn't changed because all they see are the "same" black and brown people. BUT, if that same low-income neighborhood of color has a sprinkling of smelly white kids move in, the NY Times sends an arsenal of reporters to write stories about the "changes" in the community and random pictures of a white kid sitting in a coffee shop or on a brownstone stoop. Even when the community may be already "gentrified" by middle class people of color, if you don't have the smattering of pasty beardos for those photos, then not a peep by anyone or any media.
THIS FOLLOWING PART IS WHAT WINS IT FOR ME
So I get what he is trying to say...gentrification doesn't matter, or doesn't apply, until the smelly white kids show up...THEN gentrification is happening (regardless of whether it has already happened by people of color).
FINALLY, somebody gets it. SHOULD it be called gentrification if educated black and latin ATCs or EMTs move into an area? Yes. IS IT? Nope. In reality, it's only called a "gentrifying" area if some poorly groomed white 30 year old waiters move into that area.
Hasidic Jews moving into Bed Stuy isn't due to gentrification, but due to overpopulation in Williamsburg. Even still, Bed Stuy is around 70% Black. Maybe one or two white people is just too much.
That's true, and it's hilarious how easy you can tell which building in that part of bed stuy belongs to a Hasidic Jew.
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