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Old 03-23-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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The general statement this end of the state for kids like this is " he was a good boy" -- implying never in trouble. Bottom line, kids who hang out with problem kids create problems.

Where was Bloomberg when you needed him? He should have definitely kept the pistol away... now that he isn't mayor, he has lots of time to ride the buses and subways and protect people, I'm sure!
NYPD never would have stopped this kid or his friends anyway, because they are REAL thugs.

Now, under "new management", NYPD will now target REAL CRIMINALS under S&F just like Bratton did when he was in LA. You don't waste manpower on bogus frisks just because the person is of a dark hue.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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NYPD never would have stopped this kid or his friends anyway, because they are REAL thugs.
Kid was a very very very very dumb 14 year old. Hasn't lived long enough to be a real thug. Real thugs wouldn't open fire like that in public, and if they did they would of hit their target. It was a b/+ch move and he'll pay the price. I've seen cops stop and frisking kids like this in ENY before. I don't think you know what you are talking about.
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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Wasn't the kid who shot someone at Byrant Park, skating rink also a "good kid".

I don't understand how do these guns just get into the hands of all these good kids...
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Old 03-23-2014, 01:53 PM
 
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Kid was a very very very very dumb 14 year old. Hasn't lived long enough to be a real thug. Real thugs wouldn't open fire like that in public, and if they did they would of hit their target. It was a b/+ch move and he'll pay the price. I've seen cops stop and frisking kids like this in ENY before. I don't think you know what you are talking about.
I didn't make this up. Dennis Hamil interviewed a cop that's a friend of his with 20 years on the force and he basically confirmed what everyone already knew.

Hamill: 28-year NYPD street cop quits over potential stop-frisk backlash - NY Daily News

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“It was bound to happen,” he said. “Brass overdid it big time. You can’t stop 900,000 people and pinch 6,000 guns and call it a success. As a rookie I had preconceptions that the projects were just all bad news. After a few months I realized that most of the residents are really good, decent people just trying to raise their kids. Most work. The projects are what they can afford. They hate the gangbangers more than us.”

He said that in 12 years under Mayor Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, they escalated stop, question and frisk. “For every one, you gotta turn in a 250 form. My bosses wanted as many 250s as possible. I’d say, ‘Listen, wouldn’t you rather have 100 250s with 10 good collars or 500 with 10 pinches?’ They’d always want the 500.”

The problem, he says, is that the people he had to stop and frisk to meet the unwritten quotas were often good kids, students, not gangbangers.

“Kids of good people we relied on as our eyes and ears in the houses,” he said. “You toss their good kids enough times and they start seeing cops as the bad guys. We knew who most of the bad guys packing guns were. But we were told to go after everybody. They overdid it in a numbers chase and you could just feel the backlash coming. Especially for street cops like me. One bad moment and you could get jammed up in this climate.”.....


This wasn't news to anyone, except posters on CD.
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Let's hope this is an anomaly, and not the result of the end of "stop and frisk."
I know, those pesky constitutional rights are always just getting in the way of things aren't they?
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:04 PM
 
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First off, my heart goes out to the family of the innocent victim.

Second, I wonder if the incessant anti-gentrification posters/"lack of flavor"/"I wish NY was like the 1980s"/Guliani-Bloomberg haters will chime in.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:19 PM
 
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This is so sad on many levels. Hard working family man just making a pit stop between his two jobs to see his wife and children shot dead because of some stupid nonsense.

Watch how the liberal/left will portray the young Black shooter as a *victim* of his urban environment and *inequality* for his poor decision making.

What sort of person pulls out a gun and opens fire on public transport? Then there is the question of what is a fourteen year old doing with a gun walking around the streets of NYC.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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I didn't make this up. Dennis Hamil interviewed a cop that's a friend of his with 20 years on the force and he basically confirmed what everyone already knew.

Hamill: 28-year NYPD street cop quits over potential stop-frisk backlash - NY Daily News





This wasn't news to anyone, except posters on CD.
How can you tell the difference if a kid is good or a psychopathic lunatic that's pulls a gun out and starts letting bullets fly for some idiotic reason? Did you see the pictures of the kid? You wouldn't be able to tell that he didn't have a care in the World for a human life by his appearance.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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Then why do you keep responding to my posts?

I never seek you out and ignore everything YOU post. Why can't you do the same for me?
He is stalking you. He likes your big black booty
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Old 03-23-2014, 07:17 PM
 
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He is stalking you. He likes your big black booty
makes sense
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