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Old 04-25-2014, 07:52 AM
 
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I wonder if the landlords looking the other way in these situations is going to stop in areas where rents are rising, like Elmhurst and Corona. Neighborhoods like this have a high percentage of immigrants, and possibly there are places where there's massive overcrowding inside the units. But if these neighborhoods start to become sought after by renters who will not overcrowd the units, then why would the landlord continue to put up with the overtaxing of his infrastructure and the overuse of hot water, etc.?

There have already been news articles this year about how neighborhoods like Elmhurst are becoming more popular due to rents increasing in other more popular areas. So how long will it take before the landlords kick out the tenants in these illegally overcrowded apartments?
won't be surprised if there are overcrowd in every other house in those towns.
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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These rent increase figures must be fake because the government decrees that we have no inflation. Of course, it is not possible that the government is LYING about inflation, is it?
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Old 04-25-2014, 09:20 AM
 
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Decreasing payments... if you don't factor in increasing taxes and maintenance fees???? 30 years of interest...
Increasing taxes and maintenance fees would be passed down to renters as well. It's an even break situation in that aspect.
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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That's true. They don't have the money for it as they don't have the money to maintain the current projects.
Federal government has moved on past building "projects" and indeed even many Democrats admit warehousing the poor, working class, and so forth amongst themselves does not work. The new focus is on what you hear all over today "inclusionary" housing. That developments based upon a mixed income/demographic groups so that the poorer will benefit from being around their betters as it were. You saw this when the federal government pretty much forced NYC to tear down Markham Homes in West Brighton on Staten Island. What replaced that notorious slum/housing estate was supposed to be mixed income/inclusionary housing...
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Old 04-25-2014, 12:56 PM
 
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Federal government has moved on past building "projects" and indeed even many Democrats admit warehousing the poor, working class, and so forth amongst themselves does not work. The new focus is on what you hear all over today "inclusionary" housing. That developments based upon a mixed income/demographic groups so that the poorer will benefit from being around their betters as it were. You saw this when the federal government pretty much forced NYC to tear down Markham Homes in West Brighton on Staten Island. What replaced that notorious slum/housing estate was supposed to be mixed income/inclusionary housing...
The inclusionary developments don't work, either. What will has already happened is that people have to deal with poor, non working people who do things like blasts rap music at 3am in the morning, loiter all over the place, etc. So essentially cities will continue to warehouse the poor in bad parts of town.

There are always going to be some people who are poor and low class.
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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I wonder if the landlords looking the other way in these situations is going to stop in areas where rents are rising, like Elmhurst and Corona. Neighborhoods like this have a high percentage of immigrants, and possibly there are places where there's massive overcrowding inside the units. But if these neighborhoods start to become sought after by renters who will not overcrowd the units, then why would the landlord continue to put up with the overtaxing of his infrastructure and the overuse of hot water, etc.?

There have already been news articles this year about how neighborhoods like Elmhurst are becoming more popular due to rents increasing in other more popular areas. So how long will it take before the landlords kick out the tenants in these illegally overcrowded apartments?
Many of these units are illegally converted. Many of these properties are also owned by immigrants who use the illegally overcrowded residents to work for them in their businesses.

In short, Central Queens has a long way to go before improving. Many single families homes are now multifamily homes, and many multifamily homes are massively overcrowded. Enough of this occurs to effect an entire neighborhood.

Btw, there are articles that claim the Bronx is gentrifying. It's not. NYC is no danger of becoming a wealthy city of upper middle class white renters. Much of it is as ghetto as ever and will remain so.

As rents rise in Jackson Heights/Corona/Elmhurst, big deal, people are already living 10-15 to an apartment so that will continue.

Keep in mind poor people have their weapons too. The majority of immigrants in Jackson Heights aren't white. Anything that threatens the community of poor in the Bronx is dealt with via demonstrations. The same would happen in Jackson Heights. The real estate industry would flee from accusations of racism against poor non white immigrants who do all the ****ty jobs that make the city run that high income people won't do. This is a fairly common manipulation that has worked many times across the city. The proposed BID in Jackson Heights/Corona is being fought tooth and nail by these forces. Factor in who got elected mayor, and under what platform (representing the other New York, the 99 percent,etc) and the overcrowded conditions have no realistic chances of changing as the activists in Jackson Heights would have a pipeline to City Hall.
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Old 04-25-2014, 04:05 PM
 
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My rent has gone up 45% since 2000.
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Old 04-25-2014, 04:50 PM
 
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My neighborhood in Woodstock (Southern Bronx), rents have gone from $700 for a 2 bedroom in 2000, to $1,400 in 2012...a 100% increase, and now $1,500+ in 2014. Does this mean in 2020 rent will be $2,000+ in the Southern Bronx? I doubt it but anything is possible these days it seems. I suspect the rapid rent increases will pause as homeownership starts to take off again....and that isn't such a bad thing. I tend to think come 2020 my rents for 2 bedrooms will be $1,800, which will probably still be a bargain in NYC.
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Old 04-26-2014, 08:13 AM
 
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My rent has gone up approx. 65% since 2000. Now I wish my income had gone up by the same percentage!
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Here is a map where rents have increased. Anywhere near Manhattan has increasing rents or is becoming expensive. It looks like Eastern Queens, South and Eastern Brooklyn, all of Staten Island and most of the Bronx that is not near Manhattan might have affordable rents, however have longer commute times.

NYC Is Even More Unaffordable Than You Think, In 6 Charts
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