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You can't go by the stats because many immigrants in NYC area are here illegally. Expired visas/resident cards or no card at all, was smuggled in. Just like illegal Mexican immigrants, these other illegal immigrants won't show up in any census - they stay far away from the radar but they exist nonetheless. I too believe that at least half of the population of NYC are from other countries/nations but of course due to being off the radar census doesn't have a number on them. I also believe that NYC attracts large numbers of immigrants predominately who are poor, unskilled people, from dysfunctional countries for the most part which adversely affects the quality of life for the middle and working class because these immigrants live in their neighborhoods in crowded housing.
The only exception IMO are immigrants who Black. Although they tend to live in family groups as well, usually it's not five families crushed together in a two-bedroom apartment like other immigrant groups. They are mostly Africans (from the continent) and Black West Indians (Caribbean) who usually arrive with at minimum post high-school grad education level and at max a PhD and professional experience in one area or another. This is not celebrated as it would be had they been Asians. Nor is it celebrated as it should be because as a country we (even Blacks) are still unaccustomed to giving Black people accolades publicly outside of the sports and entertainment field, regardless of where they're from.
It's like we want to stubbornly stick to the one paradigm of Black people and ignore or stay silent on those who don't fit the paradigm. That paradigm is that Black people are primarily refugees, poor people always in need of a handout or in need of saving from their own lack of intelligence or stupid mistakes, poor people running from tragedy/famine, or loud obnoxious and crude Ebonics speaking American Blacks in need of being patronized due to their ignorance.
Realistically, there are other paradigms of Blacks in existence: American Blacks who are much better off personally (happy, don't have criminal backgrounds, etc) and financially (own homes, own land/property, never lived in projects, etc.) in the south and Midwest parts of the US than most other groups of Blacks and non-Blacks on the east coast and this has been the case for generations. There is also the paradigm of educated Blacks from Africa and Caribbean as I mentioned above.
Wish persons would stop insisting poverty in NYC is just a racial/ethnic issue, because it isn't, but affects everyone.
See just as many white/European persons (even young adults) digging through rubbish bin liners in front of supermarkets or shops as any minority group. There are also plenty of *whites* on various forms of welfare, disability, SSI, and or whom receive various state or federal subsidies of some sort.
There are also plenty of white/European households that are "housing poor". That is after they have paid their rent, mortgage or whatever and utilities they have little to nil left for much else. One of the largest groups receiving public assistance of some sort and or charity are the various Orthodox Jewish sects of NYC, and they are quite efficient in funneling taxpayer money their way. Some housing projects in parts of Brooklyn are mostly if not mainly Jewish and receive all sorts of aid from food stamps to housing subsidies.
Yes, illegal immigrants and or legal can be "poor", but both have a powerful incentive to say away from government services. That is being found as a "public charge" can cause difficulties with obtaining and or keeping legal immigration status. While the term is vague and does have a good number of exclusions basically if you cannot support yourself the government does not look kindly upon you remaining. For this reason many illegal and legal immigrants would rather go without services they are entitled out of fear of being reported and or seen as a public charge.
New York City has a huge problem. The cost of living here continues to rise while wages remain weak for most and inexpensive goods and services from housing to groceries are becoming hard to find. When you look at what a gallon of milk costs say in Manhattan versus parts of New Jersey or even PA you begin to see what is going on.
Wish persons would stop insisting poverty in NYC is just a racial/ethnic issue, because it isn't, but affects everyone.
See just as many white/European persons (even young adults) digging through rubbish bin liners in front of supermarkets or shops as any minority group. There are also plenty of *whites* on various forms of welfare, disability, SSI, and or whom receive various state or federal subsidies of some sort.
There are also plenty of white/European households that are "housing poor". That is after they have paid their rent, mortgage or whatever and utilities they have little to nil left for much else. One of the largest groups receiving public assistance of some sort and or charity are the various Orthodox Jewish sects of NYC, and they are quite efficient in funneling taxpayer money their way. Some housing projects in parts of Brooklyn are mostly if not mainly Jewish and receive all sorts of aid from food stamps to housing subsidies.
Yes, illegal immigrants and or legal can be "poor", but both have a powerful incentive to say away from government services. That is being found as a "public charge" can cause difficulties with obtaining and or keeping legal immigration status. While the term is vague and does have a good number of exclusions basically if you cannot support yourself the government does not look kindly upon you remaining. For this reason many illegal and legal immigrants would rather go without services they are entitled out of fear of being reported and or seen as a public charge.
New York City has a huge problem. The cost of living here continues to rise while wages remain weak for most and inexpensive goods and services from housing to groceries are becoming hard to find. When you look at what a gallon of milk costs say in Manhattan versus parts of New Jersey or even PA you begin to see what is going on.
poverty breeds crime and crime drives down the popularity of nyc residence which lessens the demand and eventually lead to downward adjustment of the col. we are probably at a pivotal point where the downward spiral of nyc popularity. based on a few RE market strengths that I have been following, it appears to me that the RE market party in majority of nyc is over. the rising crime situation and historical high col are turning things around in the next year or two for nyc.
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