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Old 05-02-2014, 11:16 AM
 
Location: NJ
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/02/us...imum-wage.html

Seattle area is much less expensive than NYC, yet their min wage is already way higher. Is it justified? Would it work in NYC? I feel like $15/hr might be too much in Seattle, but seems plausible in overpriced NYC. Btw, WA state's min wage is the highest in the nation at $9.32 and guess what? The region is not dying or going out of business or bankrupt, as some conservatives like to claim about the min wage increase. Actually, Seattle metro has one of the best economies in the country right now.
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Old 05-02-2014, 12:13 PM
 
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No one with no skills should be earning over $30,000 per year.
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Old 05-02-2014, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Minimum wage laws aren't tough to figure out. Not counting overhead costs, Washington state's law essentially says that it is illegal to employ someone who produces $9.32 or less worth of goods or services per hour, insofar as it's in a company's interest to turn a profit. A minimum wage of $15.00 in Seattle would make people who produce $15.00 or less worth of goods or services per hour unemployable.
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:56 AM
 
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No one with no skills
Does that include those unable to compose sentences using proper grammar?
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should be earning over $30,000 per year.
How about math skills? (arithmetic, actually)
What does 2,000 x $15 equal?
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:24 AM
 
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Does that include those unable to compose sentences using proper grammar?

How about math skills? (arithmetic, actually)
What does 2,000 x $15 equal?
There isn't anything wrong with his sentence or his math.

"No one with no skills" is correct. What would you have him change it to? "No one with skills"? That changes the meaning of the sentence and is obviously not what he wants to say.

$15/hour is roughly equivalent to $30,000 annually. We are talking about $15/hour so I'm not sure what your beef is with mentioning a $30,000 salary.
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Old 05-03-2014, 10:06 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Pretty soon it will be difficult to get any workers to work in NYC for less than $100/day. I've asked a lot of business owners and they tell me if they don't pay $100/day then the workers don't show up.

That equates to about $12-15/hr.
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Old 05-03-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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Next time you're at Duane reade or a local grocery store and the cashier doesn't even look at you when you say hello and can't be bothered to even tell you how much your total is, tell me why they are worth $15/hr.

Sorry, but there are many people that do not provide $15 an hour of value to a company looking to earn a profit.

Quick scenario here: small business owner has a cupcake / coffee shop, etc. store is open 14 hours a day, and needs two workers there at all times, both making minimum wage. That means the store is paying for ~ 10k in wage hours per year. (14 hour days, 360 days / year.). You take minimum wage from $8/hr to $15/hr. That's $70k in additional expenses. What small business owner employing a handful of people can afford to eat $70k per year off the bottom line?
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Old 05-03-2014, 11:37 AM
 
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"No one with no skills" is correct. What would you have him change it to? "No one with skills"? That changes the meaning of the sentence and is obviously not what he wants to say.
"Anyone without skills", or " The unskilled should not". Sad that you couldn't see this.
I didn't even touch the "over"/"more than" issue.
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$15/hour is roughly equivalent to $30,000 annually. We are talking about $15/hour so I'm not sure what your beef is with mentioning a $30,000 salary.
His position would support a maximum wage, at what others are contending should be a minimum wage. Again, looks like you missed this.
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Old 05-03-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: NJ
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"Anyone without skills", or " The unskilled should not". Sad that you couldn't see this.
I didn't even touch the "over"/"more than" issue.

His position would support a maximum wage, at what others are contending should be a minimum wage. Again, looks like you missed this.
Yea, he said they shouldnt get more than 30k, while 15/hr is 30k. Fail.
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Old 05-03-2014, 12:02 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Next time you're at Duane reade or a local grocery store and the cashier doesn't even look at you when you say hello and can't be bothered to even tell you how much your total is, tell me why they are worth $15/hr.

Sorry, but there are many people that do not provide $15 an hour of value to a company looking to earn a profit.

Quick scenario here: small business owner has a cupcake / coffee shop, etc. store is open 14 hours a day, and needs two workers there at all times, both making minimum wage. That means the store is paying for ~ 10k in wage hours per year. (14 hour days, 360 days / year.). You take minimum wage from $8/hr to $15/hr. That's $70k in additional expenses. What small business owner employing a handful of people can afford to eat $70k per year off the bottom line?
if seattle can then nyc can too
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