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Old 05-09-2014, 08:34 AM
 
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I never said it was. But just as it isn't cool to bash entire countries or races of people, it's not cool to bash entire states entire. That doesn't mean you have to want to live in a particular place. But that can be expressed without saying hateful things that would have broad condemnations if they were said about whole races of people.

You can simply just say you don't like TN, for example. No need to resort to name calling.
You're right. I could have, but I wanted to make it absolutely CLEAR why I would NEVER voluntarily move to a Deep South state.

I wasn't even thinking along racial lines, but the fact that those states have proven to be the poorest, slowest to move forward or adapt to "new" things, many believe that Obama is directly related to Osama Bin Laden, still have and enforce separate proms for blacks and whites, etc., the list of ignorance is endless.

Again, I would only move there if I wanted to fall off the radar of life.
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:41 AM
 
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You're right. I could have, but I wanted to make it absolutely CLEAR why I would NEVER voluntarily move to a Deep South state.

I wasn't even thinking along racial lines, but the fact that those states have proven to be the poorest, slowest to move forward or adapt to "new" things, many believe that Obama is directly related to Osama Bin Laden, still have and enforce separate proms for blacks and whites, etc., the list of ignorance is endless.

Again, I would only move there if I wanted to fall off the radar of life.
Well, the thing is, there's no reason to justify why you don't want to move to a Deep South state. If you never want to do that, is 100% your right.

But when you get into the things you just said, that right there in and of itself is a kind of ignorance because you made massive stereotypes of an entire region and you just assaulted people. Having lived in the deep south before, I can say I don't know anyone who thinks Obama is related to Osama Bin Laden. I might add a wealthy New Yorker by name of Donald Trump tried to claim Obama isn't a US citizen. In my time in the Deep South, I'm not aware that the region as a whole enforces separate proms for Blacks and Whites. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened anywhere in the region, but we are talking about a huge region.

Are you claiming New York has no racial incidents or no segregation in where people live or go to school?

But all that is irrelevant. The bottom line is, if you don't want to live in the deep South, be CIVIL and just say you don't want to live there. Coming out with stereotypes out of the wood work makes you sound as ignorant and as bigoted as the people you say you protest.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:01 AM
 
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You have to realize most people who rave about NY barely make it past the Hudson River. I'm sure Marilyn's idea of SOUTH is the Financial District.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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For the coming fiscal year NYC will spend 1.4 billion (USD) on the homeless including shelters and other services. This is more than several other city agencies including parks and transportation.

New York City Targets Spending $1.04 Billion on Homeless - WSJ.com
Kind of pointless when the money should be directed more towards the things that make people homeless: Mental health, economy, unemployment, domestic issues, alcoholism, drug addiction, etc.
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Old 05-09-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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You have to realize most people who rave about NY barely make it past the Hudson River.
I do realize that. As well as realized the more affluent and educated New Yorkers have substantial lives out of NYC. Many of them have attended universities outside of NYC, worked outside NYC, done business outside NYC, vacationed substantially outside of NYC, etc.

It's ironic. Columbia has the only high ranking undergraduate program in NYC (NYU isn't quite there). Most of the other Ivy Leagues (Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, Brown, Princeton) are in rural and suburban areas. MIT is in a suburban area. In terms of other high ranked schools, Emory, Duke, Vanderbuilt, Tulane, and Rice are in the (gasp) South. Stanford is in a suburban part of the Bay area (gasp), Northwestern is in a suburban area as well. Univ of Chicago is in a (gasp) Midwestern city, etc. In the sciences, you actually have a lot of major research at University of Texas, University of North Carolina, and the private Southern Universities I mentioned. Ditto of course those rural and suburban Ivies, Stanford, and Northwestern. Oh, and UC Berkeley isn't in downtown SF, though it's in the bay area and it's a fine undergraduate university with excellent graduate research programs.

My point is the people raving about New York clearly don't have good educations, as anyone with a good education would be more open minded about the rest of the country. They might have to move to further their educations or careers. So basically, the people who rave about NY and who barely make it past the Hudson River are in that situation because of a lack of income and education.

And no, there's no double standard here because I'm not saying all or even most New Yorkers are like that. 30to66at55 and I are speaking about a specific subset.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:26 AM
 
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It's ironic. Columbia has the only high ranking undergraduate program in NYC (NYU isn't quite there).
And Juilliard.
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Old 05-10-2014, 10:32 AM
 
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Wait till December, and give them bus tickets to FL. They'll probably be happy to go. Just post cops at the Port Authority the next spring. IIf they show up again, just put them back on the bus.
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