Why bicycles and pedestrians do not care if the light is green or not?

[DoomDan515]

Originally Posted by guestbronx

This city was not designed to appropriately handle methods of travel outside driving. Notice how much room is dedicated to it. This situation is not fair to the vast majority not in personal automobiles. Rule breaking is a reaction to this set up. NYC could use much more pedestrianization, mid block crossings, bicycle infrastructure, etc.

BTW, the speed limit was recently signed into a law as 25 MPH. Expect signage changes and cameras to start ticketing at 36 MPH.

Not everyone likes to take smelly buses filled with ghetto people and crying babies who crap themselves and make the whole bus stink, or overcrowded trains filled with beggers and gang members. Btw lowering the speed limit also affects buses, but we have Bill Dedumbass to thank for that.

[guestbronx]

Originally Posted by DoomDan515

Not everyone likes to take smelly buses filled with ghetto people and crying babies who crap themselves and make the whole bus stink, or overcrowded trains filled with beggers and gang members. Btw lowering the speed limit also affects buses, but we have Bill Dedumbass to thank for that.

Not really. Lowering the speed limit doesn't affect travel time because you're not going from point A to point B at the same pace non-stop (traffic control devices for example). What it does improve is reaction time when it comes to unexpected obstacles on the street. In an urban area, vehicles should travel slowly unless grade separate. The biggest problem are speed demons flying between red lights and stop signs.

The rest of what you say is stereotyping. I have a car yet typically use mass transit because it's usually faster and more convenient to where I am going (I bike too when possible). The vast majority of my subway and rides are pretty uneventful. Being in a car does not make you immune to the toxic smells of the road or unpleasant curb side trash either. Road rage is much more common than gang intimidation, I constantly have beggers knock on my window and I have no children (but I do have heaphones).

[Adhom]

There are reckless drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians. The reality is a lot of streets are just not designed for both cars and bicycles to operate safely side by side but no one is willing to admit that, especially people who try to push for more bicycles.

[BlakeJones]

Originally Posted by Adhom

There are reckless drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians. The reality is a lot of streets are just not designed for both cars and bicycles to operate safely side by side but no one is willing to admit that, especially people who try to push for more bicycles.

Cars & bikes would be fine without the pedestrians. The pedestrians are used to hogging the margins for themselves but that's where the bicycles travel. If people stayed on the corner instead of the parking lane to wait for the light that would prevent half of all the altercations between bikes & cars/people