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If I'm not mistaken, the city has a legal obligation to house the homeless, but they need to be spread out throught the city. It's crazy that there isn't type of legislation about this already. To concentrate them in several neighborhoods, or only in low-income neighborhoods is criminal. If Elmhurst already has one, then it's enough. Spread them around -- it's only fair.
they should ALL be from here to get the services here
This is the United States. I don't think any one city or any one state can 100% require that you be born in a state to get services.
Also, someone could move to NYC (or wherever) get a job for 6 months, get laid off and then get unemployment and food stamps. It's only fair, the person was in fact working here.
No doubt there are people who move to NYC to get services, but that will always be the case. Certain services do not even ask for id (soup kitchens), and many will never ask for id due to the nature of the populations they serve.
They should be located within central business districts. Manhattan, Downtown Brooklyn, Jamaica Center, Downtown Flushing, etc...
You do indeed have soup kitchens and services for the homeless in the areas you mentioned. However this stuff should be spread throughout the city as this is a CITY WIDE problem.
You do indeed have soup kitchens and services for the homeless in the areas you mentioned. However this stuff should be spread throughout the city as this is a CITY WIDE problem. More people can make use of them.
Which is why you place them in the central business districts that are areas in the city with the more developed infrastructure to serve more residents CITY WIDE, the way they already do for many residents for a host of other services CITY WIDE. These are already locations that have broader reach. The same reason why they would put the main library or court house in these locations.
Which is why you place them in the central business districts that are areas in the city with the more developed infrastructure to serve more residents CITY WIDE, the way they already do for many residents for a host of other services CITY WIDE. These are already locations that have broader reach. The same reason why they would put the main library or court house in these locations.
As a citywide problem, it should be and is dealt with city wide, not just in a few central business locations. There is plenty of infrastructure throughout the city to help those people. Example, those people in the Elmhurst shelter have food stamps that can be used in any grocery store anywhere (including ELMHURST). And there are social service agencies in Elmhurst and Jackson Heights. I know you would like to see the problem not dealt with or addressed in Queens, but it doesn't work that way. Queens has to deal with the homeless population just like the other boroughs, and this includes neighborhoods with single family homes.
As a citywide problem, it should be and is dealt with city wide, not just in a few central business locations. There is plenty of infrastructure throughout the city to help those people. Example, those people in the Elmhurst shelter have food stamps that can be used in any grocery store anywhere (including ELMHURST). And there are social service agencies in Elmhurst and Jackson Heights. I know you would like to see the problem not dealt with or addressed in Queens, but it doesn't work that way. Queens has to deal with the homeless population just like the other boroughs, and this includes neighborhoods with single family homes.
You just don't get it. Queens has 3 central business districts, LIC (by Queens Plaza), Downtown Flushing, and Jamaica Center. Brooklyn has Downtown Brooklyn (ENY was also supposed to be one but never developed as such). Manhattan has Midtown and Lower Manhattan. These districts serve everyone that lives in the city, and even those that live beyond the city limits. Placing shelters in CBDs have many advantages for those that would otherwise be homeless residents. They tend to serve as transportation hubs, making it easier to travel to a wider geographic area for interviews. They also tend to have the larger library branches that provide more services such as assistance with job searches. Also court houses tend to be located in CBD, and many residents will likely have court appearances on a host of matters. Also, and most importantly, CBD have more jobs.
I think that the non-profit is trying to simply save money at the expense of those that they are supporting.
You just don't get it. Queens has 3 central business districts, LIC (by Queens Plaza), Downtown Flushing, and Jamaica Center. Brooklyn has Downtown Brooklyn (ENY was also supposed to be one but never developed as such). Manhattan has Midtown and Lower Manhattan. These districts serve everyone that lives in the city, and even those that live beyond the city limits. Placing shelters in CBDs have many advantages for those that would otherwise be homeless residents. They tend to serve as transportation hubs, making it easier to travel to a wider geographic area for interviews. They also tend to have the larger library branches that provide more services such as assistance with job searches. Also court houses tend to be located in CBD, and many residents will likely have court appearances on a host of matters. Also, and most importantly, CBD have more jobs.
I think that the non-profit is trying to simply save money at the expense of those that they are supporting.
I do indeed get it. You don't want homeless in Elmhurst and Glendale and you're making ridiculous excuses to cover up your true feelings on the matter. But it's all irrelevant as those shelters are in these neighborhoods and that's that.
Lastly, if you concentrated all of Queens homeless in LIC, Downtown Flusing, and Jamaica Center you'd bring these neighborhoods down by making them dumping grounds for the city. No business district is going to allow itself to be filled up with shelters and services for the poor. A lot of money was spent in recent years in building LIC. No way Citibank, Jet Blue and other stakeholders are tolerating Skid Row opening up in LIC.
Bloomberg and Giuliani, when they cleaned up Manhattan and areas close to Manhattan simply shifted the underclass population to certain outer borough neighborhoods and former middle and working class areas (like the North Bronx, Canarsie and Flatlands Brooklyn became horrible slums). So the shelter operators aren't saving money, they are moving to neighborhoods that the city considers less VALUABLE and somewhat EXPENDABLE.
With that said, Elmhurst can hold a couple of shelters without falling apart or becoming a high crime area.
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