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Old 07-29-2014, 10:02 AM
 
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Expensive buy-in compared to mitchell lamas. But you can't beat the neighborhood. Income ranges very reasonable. The only thing I don't like about these lotteries is that they are asking for a fee. I always wonder why if you still have a considerable waiting list why are you opening up your list and asking for a fee? $200 per person adds up to a lot. What is done with this money?
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Old 07-29-2014, 12:32 PM
 
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Expensive buy-in compared to mitchell lamas. But you can't beat the neighborhood. Income ranges very reasonable. The only thing I don't like about these lotteries is that they are asking for a fee. I always wonder why if you still have a considerable waiting list why are you opening up your list and asking for a fee? $200 per person adds up to a lot. What is done with this money?
It's to cover administrative costs and to show that you are serious about buying an apartment. Keep in mind you don't pay the $200 just to enter the lottery, you only pay if you win and get on the list. If there was no fee, I imagine they'd be flooded with frivolous entries. Also, when you get an apartment, $150 of that fee gets applied to your first months carrying charges.

The apartment costs are indeed higher than other developments, but they are meant to be middle class housing -- and that definition keeps changing.
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Old 07-29-2014, 03:48 PM
 
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I definitely think I am going to apply to this. Can't hurt to send in a postcard. Very rare that I actually see something in an appealing neighborhood that I qualify for income wise!!!
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Old 07-29-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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Is pennsouth relatively safe? i found that it was just cross the street of the projects Elliott and Chelsea.
How is the quality of the local zone school?

I've never lived near a project or walked through a project and have no idea of the safety around projects. The pennsouth sounds very attractive in terms of location and the price and the green space in the complex. However, the safety issue and the quality of local zoned school may keep me at bay.

Can anyone talk about the safety around penn south and the quality of the zone local schools?

Myself is currently living at Jackson Heights and always want to move to Manhattan to shorten the commute. The prime neighborhoods are too expensive for me. I will not move my home from Jackson Heights to upper manhattan due to my own perceived safety issue and quality of local zone schools in the upper manhattan neighborhoods.
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Old 07-30-2014, 06:25 AM
 
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Expensive buy-in compared to mitchell lamas. But you can't beat the neighborhood. Income ranges very reasonable. The only thing I don't like about these lotteries is that they are asking for a fee. I always wonder why if you still have a considerable waiting list why are you opening up your list and asking for a fee? $200 per person adds up to a lot. What is done with this money?

If you want to back out at any time and have your name pulled from the list (like if you got into ANOTHER one), just notify them and they'll promptly give you $150 of the $200 back.


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Expensive buy-in compared to mitchell lamas.
From what I have heard that is because of the immense capital expense of an independent HVAC/electrical cogeneration system that will save them millions in maintenance costs.


Does Penn-South have 24 hour doormen for all the buildings?
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Old 07-30-2014, 06:53 AM
 
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Is pennsouth relatively safe? i found that it was just cross the street of the projects Elliott and Chelsea.
How is the quality of the local zone school?

I've never lived near a project or walked through a project and have no idea of the safety around projects. The pennsouth sounds very attractive in terms of location and the price and the green space in the complex. However, the safety issue and the quality of local zoned school may keep me at bay.

Can anyone talk about the safety around penn south and the quality of the zone local schools?

Myself is currently living at Jackson Heights and always want to move to Manhattan to shorten the commute. The prime neighborhoods are too expensive for me. I will not move my home from Jackson Heights to upper manhattan due to my own perceived safety issue and quality of local zone schools in the upper manhattan neighborhoods.
Penn South is no less safe than the rest of Chelsea--which is to say it's pretty safe. Since the people who live in the complex are homeowners and not rental tenants, residents are active and don't tolerate vandalism, harassment etc. We have our own armed security staff that patrol the area and monitor camera feeds throughout. I'm not saying crime doesn't happen here because it occasionally does - but I don't know any part of the city that you could leave your door unlocked. I've not had a problem with people from the projects but there are issues there from time to time--usually involving other residents from the projects. I think when compared to other NYCHA housing, the Elliot Chelsea houses are *relatively* tame--most of the time.

Part of what has changed in recent years is the fact that there are tons more people living and working west of the complex in an area that was once a dead industrial zone and which used to be abandoned at night. Now it's art galleries, luxury housing and offices. There are a *lot* more people around and that alone increases safety.

I can't provide much information about the schools because I don't have kids, but I do know that different buildings lie in different school zones. I know that people have sometimes moved within the complex to change schools -- so I would assume some are better than others.
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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One thing you can do is attend the local precients monthly meeting to see what major issues are in the area. You can also attend the community board meetings.
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Old 07-30-2014, 11:49 AM
 
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Doormen in the buildings?
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Old 07-30-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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Doormen in the buildings?
No doormen. There is a touchscreen that you use to contact a resident who can open the door for you.
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Old 07-30-2014, 04:59 PM
 
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Hello

I sent a post card in for a one bedroom. My friend who lives at the same address did as well. Do you think we will be disqualified being we live at the same address? We are separate buyers.

Also I have been on wait lists for many places since 1998. I was told they cant find me in any system when I call trying to find out status. These things are such bull.
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