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MSM has really pushed onto my generation that city living is the cool, socially and readily accepted way to go when you become an adult. Look at all the shows in the 90s. All of them featured being in the big cities, glorifying it. All the shows about the rural areas where depressing, and made that living undesirable.
I think you're on to something. Nobody I knew in the 90s listened to grunge, and I consider myself a pretty middle-of the-road GenX'er. Was there a music type that most GenX'ers latched onto?
Probably just pop music, which is why it was deemed pop music. And I am pretty sure, when the Gen Xers were teens they listened to 80s and early to mid 90s music. I guess some grunge was mixed into that, but I hardly doubt you could live the lifestyle. Unless, you are Guy Fieri that hair style and clothing will not be accepted in the work place.
Actually, I dont even believe Gen X was into grunge unless they of course had a large trust fund too like the modern hipsters. Grunge really was marketed towards the teens and that mostly was still Gen Y in the 90s.
I mean, seriously, how could any self respecting, working Gen X adult be into something like grunge unless he was basically a spoiled rich kid who did not have to work for a living? Of course that did probably exist, but not in the numbers for which you can claim grunge was Gen X
The modern day Gen Y hipsters, were probably some of the grunge kids back in the 90s when they were in middle and high school.
All I know is that goth scene of the 80s and grunge scene of the the 90s was mainly Gen x. Even though I'm an early millennial I do remember some early millennial of my cohort who were part of the grunge scene. Today your average millennial likes that hipster stuff with whimsical baby music playing in the background with trips to Boston, Portland, San Francisco and Brooklyn.
Bohemians have been around for decades in all the familiar incarnations (hippie, punk etc.), making culture. When the internet came along and began doing its pernicious twist on human thought, bohemian and otherwise, the hipster was born, rising like a facial-haired phoenix out of the digital flames.
Bohemians + internet = hipsters
Bohemians = analog
Hipsters = digital
Bohemians = brew or steep to taste
Hipsters = just add water and stir
Captain Obvious says it's the internet what created hipsters.
All I know is that goth scene of the 80s and grunge scene of the the 90s was mainly Gen x. Even though I'm an early millennial I do remember some early millennial of my cohort who were part of the grunge scene. Today your average millennial likes that hipster stuff with whimsical baby music playing in the background with trips to Boston, Portland, San Francisco and Brooklyn.
I thought the Goth scene was a part of the mid 90s lifestyles like skating, and such. I was not aware they had goth in the 80s. My first thought of Goth was Marilyn Manson, and ilk.
Of course it was Gen X and prior generations that worked behind the scenes to perpetuate the grunge scene, but it was the Gen Yers sucking it up, and making their parents spend money on it. All the musicians most definitely came from the Gen X, no doubt (pun intended, the band haha). Green Day, Offspring, Pearl Jam yes, those are Gen X musicians. But I thought this was about the fanboys.
It's not just nyc. I was in Miami before moving back to the city. They are in large numbers on the east side of Miami, specifically edge water, south beach and wyndwood areas.
If you look at the statistics, hipsters -- that is, millennials -- aren't really responsible for surging rents and housing prices in NYC. The investment banking boom that started in the 1980's was probably the one of the first "culprits." During the late 1970's, there was a lot of uncertainty about the future of NYC (and cities in general). Soon after this initial influx of capital, people began to look at buying New York real estate as an "investment." Then, wealthy foreigners from places like Russia decided to join in on all the fun and began to "park" their money here. The crack wars subsided in the 1990's and with all this money coming in, NYC became an attractive (and cleaner) place to live again. Finally, during the 2000's, rising gas prices made walkable cities like NYC even more desirable.
The hipster phenomenon is likely tied to the transition from a manufacturing economy to a service one. Until the 1960's and 1970's, most Americans went straight from high school into a factory job or trade. Working a 9-5 factory job isn't really conducive to hipster activities like "personal expression" and sleeping in till noon.
From its founding, New York City has been attractive to all types of transplants. Hipsters are one type of transplant, so it's not surprising they flock here in large numbers (just like everybody else)
It's not just nyc. I was in Miami before moving back to the city. They are in large numbers on the east side of Miami, specifically edge water, south beach and wyndwood areas.
True. Isn't Portland considered the mecca for hipsters? Hipsters are all over the place but I think they're no longer quite as hip or morphed into something else. And goth first started in the early 80's. I recall seeing them everywhere in the East Village area. So, they predate Marilyn Manson.
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