Bronx Crime to go down !!!!!!!! (Lenox, Walton: low income, apartment, high crime)

[bx718]

I just saw this on news12 bx.
Bronx crime is expected to drop dramatically

Operation impact is a program where the NYPD delegates new academy graduates to high crime NHs in the city. This year, about two thirds of the new graduates are being assigned to the bronx alone. The cops will be spread in the following precinct areas:

44 - Highbridge
46 - Morris Heights
52 - Kingsbridge (surprise surprise).

The report said that, usually, NYPD delegates only a percentage of the new
graduates to Operation Impact. However, this year, NYPD is delegating ALL 2008 graduates to Impact as part of a huge effort to reduce crime.

It's interesting that Highbridge is on the list since it's the precinct area that houses the new yankee stadium redevelopment zone. Great seller for new residents and businesses. I guess the stick up kids will now have a lot more options
Does this mean the hand to hand guys on decatur, 194, valentine, bainbridge etc are going out of business? I guess we'll see what happens with time.

[Jrock247]

Its actually mixed news due to that fact that this years academy class is about 2/3 the size of the previous (about 900 this year vs 1200 last year).


Regardless foot patrols are the best way to reduce street crime.

[009]

Originally Posted by Jrock247

Its actually mixed news due to that fact that this years academy class is about 2/3 the size of the previous (about 900 this year vs 1200 last year).


Regardless foot patrols are the best way to reduce street crime.

Not to forget those that probably quit or will once they hit their first street experience.

[bx718]

but then doesn't it have a slingshot effect like - having all the the cops out on the street corners etc - will just make decrease the supply (in a way) for a while. Then as soon as the impact program is suspended, the crime/drugs level will jump to a level higher than it was prior to the program.

If it's not permanent does it really help? what happens to the dealers and the stick up kids? do they move their ops somewhere else?

A few years ago, people will remember how booming thebootleg market was on fordham rd. The cops installed cameras, raided the place CONSTANTLY and now, there are no bootleggers on fordham.

I wonder will happen if the same can be done for street crime in places like kingsbridge

Hey - Mead - i guess East Tremont is not so bad after all - it was not included in the impact program - or was it? i have to look at the precinct boundaries again.

[spydrman718]

Originally Posted by 009

Not to forget those that probably quit or will once they hit their first street experience.

+all the retirees. NYPD been loosing strength for years now. While the 44, 46, and 52nd precincts are getting a little bit of new man power the nearby precincts are ever loosing. If you include those who will leave the 44, 46, and 52nd this year the gains and loses will probably balance out if they are lucky.

Originally Posted by bx718

but then doesn't it have a slingshot effect like - having all the the cops out on the street corners etc - will just make decrease the supply (in a way) for a while. Then as soon as the impact program is suspended, the crime/drugs level will jump to a level higher than it was prior to the program.

If it's not permanent does it really help? what happens to the dealers and the stick up kids? do they move their ops somewhere else?

A few years ago, people will remember how booming thebootleg market was on fordham rd. The cops installed cameras, raided the place CONSTANTLY and now, there are no bootleggers on fordham.

I wonder will happen if the same can be done for street crime in places like kingsbridge

Hey - Mead - i guess East Tremont is not so bad after all - it was not included in the impact program - or was it? i have to look at the precinct boundaries again.

Yes it will go back up and down and up and down at times. Impact is no more then a ticket blitz. It's effect on crime is temporary. Pushes the street level dealing indoors at times but doesn't solve the problem. Shakes up the area and gives the locals a hard time with a stampede of summons. Foot post make a difference but the man power in these precincts are already low and will not be at healthy levels even with the boost from impact. The bootleggers are still out there on Fordham Road. I pass plenty blankets full of bootleg CD's, 3 card monte scams, and obvious stolen merchandise all the time. Hit the place hard and a few days later they are back. Why? A lot of low income people live around Fordham Road and they want to eat. They might get locked up or summoned but they will come back because the next day they will still need a quick buck. East Tremont is bad too, it just didn't get impact. Plenty crap areas don't get impact, it's just pretty random who gets it. A huge money maker for the city no doubt about that.

[bx718]

all the times i've been on fordham lately i have not seen the cd bootleggers.... hhhmm oh well.

[bx718]

I guess I spoke prematurely. There were two killings in the 183rd area. 1 fatal stabbing and a shooting. Over 15 shots were fired and a 3 yr old girl was hit by a bullet. An old lady watching t.v. also had a bullet through her t.v. as her new year's present.

183rd and walton , 183rd and tiebod. I guess 183rd is living up to it's "rep"

Also a shooting at west farms.

This is the type of stuff that has me defending the bronx when i'm with my friends. I guess operation impact is coming in just in time????

[baylovers]

From the this morning's NYPD press releases, the boogie-down was busy:

ON MONDAY, DECEMBER 31, 2007, AT APPROXIMATELY 1857 HOURS, IN FRONT OF 1236 GRAND CONCOURSE, IN THE CONFINES OF THE 44 PRECINCT, POLICE RESPONDED TO A REPORT OF SHOTS FIRED. UPON ARRIVAL IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE VICTIM, A M/H/35 WAS INVOLVED IN A DISPUTE WITH A M/H/25. DURING THE DISPUTE THE VICTIM WAS SHOT TWICE IN THE CHEST BY THE SUSPECT WHO FLED THE SCENE. THE VICTIM WAS TRANSPORTED TO BRONX LEBANON HOSPITAL WHERE HE WAS PRONOUNCED D.O.A. THERE ARE NO ARRESTS AT THIS TIME, THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING.

ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 1, 2008 AT APPROXIMATELY 0209 HOURS, IN THE VICINITY OF ROCKAWAY AVE & BLAKE AVENUE, IN THE CONFINES OF THE 73 PRECINCT, POLICE RESPONDED TO A REPORT OF SHOTS FIRED. UPON ARRIVAL A M/B/26 WAS FOUND WITH A GUNSHOT WOUND TO THE CHEST. THE VICTIM WAS REMOVED TO BROOKDALE HOSPITAL WHERE HE WAS PRONOUNCED D.O.A. AT 0300 HOURS. THERE ARE NO ARRESTS AT THIS TIME, THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING.

ON TUESDAY 1/1/08 AT APPROXIMATELY 0039 HOURS ON LENOX AVENUE BETWEEN WEST 129 STREET AND WEST 130 STREET, IN THE CONFINES OF THE 32 PRECINCT, OFFICERS ON PATROL WERE BREAKING UP A DISPUTE BETWEEN A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHEN THEY HEARD SHOTS FIRED. THE OFFICERS OBSERVED UNIDENTIFIED INDIVIDUAL(S) FIRING AT THEM FROM THE ROOFTOP OF 55 WEST 129 STREET. A CANVASS OF THE ROOFTOP RECOVERED SEVERAL SHELL CASINGS. THE OFFICERS RMP WAS STRUCK ONCE, NO OTHER INJURIES WERE REPORTED. NO ROUNDS WERE DISCHARGED BY THE OFFICERS. THERE ARE NO ARRESTS AT THIS TIME, THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING.

ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 1, 2008, AT APPROXIMATELY 0333 HOURS, INSIDE OF 968 BRONX PARK SOUTH, IN THE CONFINES OF THE 48 PRECINCT, POLICE RESPONDED TO A REPORT OF A MALE SHOT AT LOCATION. UPON ARRIVAL THEY FOUND A M/B/28 SHOT NUMEROUS TIMES. THE VICTIM WAS REMOVED TO ST. BARNABAS HOSPITAL WHERE HE WAS PRONOUNCED D.O.A. AT 0400 HOURS. THERE ARE NO ARRESTS AT THIS TIME, THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING.

ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 1, 2008, AT APPROXIMATELY 0310 HOURS, IN THE V/O E. 183 ST. & WALTON AVENUE, IN THE CONFINES OF THE 46 PRECINCT, POLICE RESPONDED TO A REPORT OF A LARGE DISPUTE AT THE LOCATION. UPON ARRIVAL THEY FOUND A M/B/17 STABBED TWICE IN THE STOMACH. THE VICTIM WAS REMOVED TO ST. BARNABAS HOSPITAL WHERE HE WAS PRONOUNCED D.O.A. AT 0339 HOURS. THERE ARE NO ARRESTS AT THIS TIME, THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING.

ON TUESDAY 01/01/08 AT APPROXIMATELY 0004 HOURS, IN THE VICINITY OF 1800 DAVIDSON AVENUE, IN THE CONFINES OF THE 46 PRECINCT, UNIFORMED OFFICERS ON PATROL APPROACHED A M/B WHO THEY BELIEVED WAS ARMED WITH A FIREARM. AS THE OFFICERS APPROACHED, THE SUSPECT RAN INTO 1780 DAVIDSON AVENUE. THE OFFICERS FOLLOWED AND ONCE INSIDE THE LOBBY OF THE LOCATION SHOTS WERE FIRED. THE SUSPECT FLED THE SCENE AND A CANVASS OF THE BUILDING ENSUED. DURING THE CANVASS POLICE WERE LED TO APARTMENT #6A INSIDE OF 1800 DAVIDSON AVENUE, WHERE THE SUSPECT WAS FOUND WITH A GUNSHOT WOUND TO THE BUTTOCKS. A 9MM HANDGUN WAS ALSO RECOVERED FROM THE AREA. THE SUSPECT WAS REMOVED TO ST. BARNABAS HOSPITAL WHERE HE IS LISTED IN STABLE CONDITION. CHARGES ARE PENDING. NO OFFICERS WERE INJURED IN THIS INCIDENT

ON TUESDAY 01/01/08 AT APPROXIMATELY 0039 HOURS IN FRONT OF 7 WEST FARM SQUARE PLAZA, IN THE CONFINES OF THE 48 PRECINCT, UNIFORMED OFFICERS ON PATROL HEARD SHOTS FIRED WHEN THEY OBSERVED AN UNIDENTIFIED M/H ARMED WITH A FIREARM. THE OFFICERS CRUISER WAS STRUCK ONCE AND THE SUSPECT FLED THE SCENE. NO ROUNDS WERE FIRED BY THE OFFICERS AND NO INJURIES WERE REPORTED. SEVERAL 9MM SHELL CASINGS WERE RECOVERED AT THE SCENE

[Guywithacause]

Operation Impact is a good thing because, in theory, it focuses manpower on areas in need..and those areas where they are putting the additional men are greatly in need. I have been seeing a stronger police presence all over my area ( Mott Haven) for the past month or so....and the presence has not let up. There is usually a reasonable police presence around here, however it has been noticeable increased as far as I can tell.

In order for the Bronx to continue to improve, crime must continue to be addressed, and the increased police presence must be played up in the media as well to justify (or support) the continued upswing/potential in the Bronx. In order for the Bronx to continue its transformation, more of these types of programs will spread..and the strong police presence is another way to pave the way for the transition.

Will the increased police presence really make a difference? At the end of the day, probbaly not, but it DOES send a signal to the community, the borough, and the city, that the Bronx will no longer tolerate the open and flagrant drug activity. So those that have the brains to become discreet, elminate the violence, and take it indoors (like much of the rest of city), will be the only ones in business....which will make the areas ALOT more liveable, safer, and mainstream...which is really the goal. Not to elminate the drug activity, that hasn't happened ANYWHERE in this city, but rather to make it at a level where its presence is on the backburner, so that communities can move forward and improve...as much of the rest of the city has.

This is further evidence as to the real and committed transformation of the Bronx as a working/middle class enclave..the only way to continue making inroads is with these types of programs and attention....the net effect of ALL these programs, investments, and growth will be very positive. I suspect this is the first of many upcoming waves of attention/initiatives by the city that will speed up the transformation over the next 2-3 years.

[SeventhFloor]

hey where'd you get this baylovers? u got a link?