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Old 11-30-2014, 04:36 PM
 
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Just spent thanksgiving weekend with my 22 year old daughter who moved to Harlem, near Frederick Douglass and 132 street. I did not like it. Felt unsafe walking around. I'm from suburbia, in a different state, so not sure if I'm over reacting as a parent. Daughters friend and roommate, who went to college in NYC, says its " fine". But, I'm seriously worried. Daughter just got there and is trying to give it a chance since lease is signed. Any thoughts?
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Old 11-30-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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The 'hood.

It has improved over the last two or three years but lots of social service housing remains. Some blocks are entirely social service housing.

There is a big luxury-esque building at FDB and 135th.

Not to worry, others (with actual experience hovering between zero and a bit) will emerge shortly to tell you how wonderful it is.

Hope she is paying the legal rent, and that she did not rent in the re-hab building, which I thought was hubristically over-priced for the area.

Random comment, if you visit the Abyssinian restaurant just off FDB on 135th, be sure that you leave at least three hours given the service.
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Old 11-30-2014, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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It's fine. More importantly, back out and let your daughter make her own decisions.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Its really not that bad unless your experience has been never ever been dealing with black/hispanic people. Lots of affordable rents still in that area and lots of new transplants (mostly whites) have been moving in the past 5yrs, ive put at least 14 people in the past 2yrs ranging from 18yrs-37yr (whites) from 123st-145st.
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Old 11-30-2014, 09:35 PM
 
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It's a hood straight up. Don't let the gentrifiers tell you otherwise. Great food though if you can find the hole in the wall soul food joints....if they still exist.
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:16 AM
 
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Thank you for the replies. I guess we'll take it day by day... With lots of Uber cars and cabs.
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY (Crown Heights/Weeksville)
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Seven years ago, my son moved to 125th and St. Nicholas with 2 female roommates, all recent college graduates who led different lives and ran on their own schedules. While they saw some things that surprised them on 125th St., it was a positive year for all of them.

I stayed with them overnight for 4 days, with my 75-y.o. mom who managed the 4-story walkup. The deal was, we could sleep in their living room if I'd buy them a futon and leave it behind. LOL, cheaper than hotels.

Most people have zero interest in your young adult who lives there. Zero. If she comes and goes, minds her own business, and is aware of her surroundings she'll likely have a very good year.

Next time you visit, instead of walking around alone feeling nervous, consider taking a walking tour run by people who have lived there awhile, to learn the history and experience a little joy. Yes, it's touristy to do this, but you need some replacement thoughts to take back home.

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It will give you other things to think about, instead of only worry. Your daughter's living where a lot of post-college students choose for its transportation convenience and rental values.

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Old 12-01-2014, 12:33 PM
 
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Thank you for all of your comments. She will give it a month and then reevaluate. The area around 125th street and FDB is fine, but the blocks seems to get rapidly sketchy as you head north to 132,133street.
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Old 12-01-2014, 12:49 PM
 
Location: New York & California
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It's a hood straight up. Don't let the gentrifiers tell you otherwise. Great food though if you can find the hole in the wall soul food joints....if they still exist.
This, right here.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:50 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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She's kind of stuck in the middle. Once you get up to 141st Street, especially west of Edgecombe, the area actually gets pretty nice. I actually prefer it to downtown. Same with just south of 125th.

Overall, she will be fine and can walk to the areas I mention where she can find great bars and places to eat.

I hope she got a rent stabalized apartment. In another five years rent is going to be through the roof!
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