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Old 12-10-2014, 06:34 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I think people need to spend a decent amount of time living in other cities to have a true opinion on the commercial NYC. In Chicago, there's no such thing as a deli and food carts pretty much don't exist. Raves are essentially outlawed, and mom n' pop places are rare. Most people there consider the best pizza place Lu Manati's, which is a chain (and I probably spelled it wrong, but I never found it that good so I don't really care).

Of course this may be my bias showing, but I like that we have the reverse of that. Yeah it's a little scary seeing some places disappear, I've seen my fair share of things disappear in the last 4 years, but NYC is still far from the commercial staleness of most cities in the US.
The only thing you're right about is that Chicago doesn't have an affinity for delis and that food carts are fairly nonexistent (because they're illegal).

But if you honestly believe that there are virtually no mom and pops in Chicago, then I honestly can't help you. It sounds like you visited the city and spent your entire time at Navy Pier. This would be like me saying that NYC = Times Square.

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This is absolutely correct. And I would say the majority of the rest of America the image of city (more often than not) is Quiznos, burger King, McDonald's, CVS, walgreenes, subway, Bank of America, Wendy's, starbucks, dunkin donuts, Pizza Hut express Taco Bell, blimpie, and maybe potbelly sandwichworks

That's what you have. And after about 9pm it's best to go home unless you want to smoke and drink the lowest of the lowest phiz draft beers and no food....and listen to slow loud awful annoying overplayed hiphop songs with people pushing and shoving at a bar where nobody talks to anybody and you just get wasted and that's it for nightlife

I just don't want New York to become this. There's actually people in this country who don't know what I'm talking about and have never in their lives heard of any other place to go for dessert than Starbucks for a cookie or Olive garden. Some parts of the country going to Dunkin constitutes "eating out to dinner".
You can already find this in NYC, and every other major city in the United States for that matter, but plenty of those same cities still have independent food scenes. You just have to look for them.

It all comes down to personal preference and willingness to take some initiative.
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Old 12-10-2014, 08:46 PM
 
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It's true that chain stores have proliferated across the city. However, a chain store is still better than a burned out storefront which is the other direction the city was headed in before the turn around.
No it wasn't.
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