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Old 12-11-2014, 10:40 AM
 
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Vastly different situation. If shooting the perp is legitimate, which in the case this thread is about, it is, so would Tasering him.

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Old 12-11-2014, 11:21 AM
 
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I love how they are NOT calling this a hate crime since the culprit is supposedly mentally ill. Screaming "I want to kill a jew" is not enough?

Crazy people can be racists too.

Has a black perp in nyc ever been charged with a hate crime?
In order for anyone to be charged with a hate crime, there has to be an initial intent based on race, ethnicity, etc. Meaning, if a dispute is initiated due to other reasons and some gets hurt/beat up, even if a slur was used during the dispute, it would not be considered to be a hate crime. This was explained by someone in law enforcement during a training meeting I attended.

Also, in many cases, other charges would bring about a longer sentence/bigger charge than a hate crime would. I believe this occurred with a case in WV about a while ago.

I also thinking actually knowing and properly interpreting laws is very important and can bring more clarity in terms of how this can have an effect on the society at large.

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Old 12-11-2014, 05:51 PM
 
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Old 12-11-2014, 05:56 PM
 
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In order for anyone to be charged with a hate crime, there has to be an initial intent based on race, ethnicity, etc. Meaning, if a dispute is initiated due to other reasons and some gets hurt/beat up, even if a slur was used during the dispute, it would not be considered to be a hate crime. This was explained by someone in law enforcement during a training meeting I attended.

Also, in many cases, other charges would bring about a longer sentence/bigger charge than a hate crime would. I believe this occurred with a case in WV about a while ago.

I also thinking actually knowing and properly interpreting laws is very important and can bring more clarity in terms of how this can have an effect on the society at large.
So saying I want to kill a Jew in a Synagogue isn't red herring enough??
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