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Old 12-15-2014, 10:41 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Lhota didn't do that well in many "native, non-transplant white" neighborhoods. DeBlasio carried much of Bay Ridge or only lost it by a small margin; he only lost badly in the wealthiest homeowner areas.

New York City Mayor - 2013 Election Results - NYTimes.com

Similar story with Bayside, Lhota's margin was small there. DeBlasio carried a lot of Forest Hills and Riverdale. Greenpoint went for DeBlasio by a big margin, not all the voters there are hipster-types. If you exclude the Orthodox Jewish portions of Brooklyn, Lhota didn't win by much. A Republican would need to win the white vote by huge margins and get a decent portion of minority voters. Here's what a winning Republican map looks like:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ayor-vote.html

Even Park Slope went Republican, though very narrowly. Ditto with most of Manhattan. Places like Bay Ridge and Bayside went Republican by 30%+ margins.
Right, and that can happen again. It's not like Bloomberg was that much more liberal or minority-friendly than Giuliani was. My point was that Bloomberg was a strong candidate and that Lhota was a weak one, but even Lhota's disastrous run managed to pull 1/4 of the electorate, and "the white vote".
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Old 12-16-2014, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Right, and that can happen again. It's not like Bloomberg was that much more liberal or minority-friendly than Giuliani was. My point was that Bloomberg was a strong candidate and that Lhota was a weak one, but even Lhota's disastrous run managed to pull 1/4 of the electorate, and "the white vote".
Lohata also carried Staten Island, and Staten Islanders hated him because of his tenure as Chairman of the MTA. This city would have been better off with Lohata as Mayor. There wouldn't be the divide we have now. In fact the masses might have united to universally hated him by now.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:42 PM
 
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Lohata also carried Staten Island, and Staten Islanders hated him because of his tenure as Chairman of the MTA. This city would have been better off with Lohata as Mayor. There wouldn't be the divide we have now. In fact the masses might have united to universally hated him by now.
The "divide" was in place long before Bill became mayor.

At least in the outer-boroughs (minus Staten Island, obviously), it was.

No one cares about Staten Island. I hope they ask for the "secession" they want and Bill grants it to them.

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Old 12-16-2014, 09:59 PM
 
Location: New York City
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No one cares about Staten Island. I hope they ask for the "secession" they want and Bill grants it to them.
They voted for secession in the 80s under Mario Cuomo, but that Gov Cuomo refused to allow it. Maybe his son will be more openminded.
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:22 PM
 
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They voted for secession in the 80s under Mario Cuomo, but that Gov Cuomo refused to allow it. Maybe his son will be more openminded.
I hope so.

It's not like anyone even remembers they're a part of the city anyways.
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:57 PM
 
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I hope so.

It's not like anyone even remembers they're a part of the city anyways.
Eric Garner ring a bell?
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