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You insist on ignoring one very important reality. Like any irresponsible, reckless, immoral, illegal act whether it be not crossing the street at the corner, drunk driving, selling loose cigarettes to kids or anyone which was illegal his actions caused him to be subject to arrest which is what happens when the Police are involved generally.
Whether he should have ended up dead anyone can debate forever. One inescapable truth is if he were not committing a Crime no matter how trivial in the publics opinion and not resisting arrest he may well still be on this side of the Grass.
I feel bad for his family and that his conscious decision to resist arrest ultimately led to his death.
He bears the responsibility for his actions ultimately and his death could have been avoided if only he:
1. Did not commit a Criminal Act
2. Resist Arrest when told he was under arrest.
Those that cannot see this as the absolute truth are the people who feel they are entitled to everything and that it is always the other persons fault for everything. When Children conduct themselves this way we say they are immature. When Adults subscribe to this belief system it is sad and tragic but again reflective of the new entitlement culture that has swept the Nation.
Actually, had he not had a LONG history of criminal acts it's possible the police may have ticketed him or even let him go with a warning. But because of his long criminal past, plus the fact he was on probation, any illegal activity the cops caught him doing was going to lead to his arrest and going back to jail.
Actually, had he not had a LONG history of criminal acts it's possible the police may have ticketed him or even let him go with a warning. But because of his long criminal past, plus the fact he was on probation, any illegal activity the cops caught him doing was going to lead to his arrest and going back to jail.
I really hate derailing my own thread but....This has been the point I have been trying to get by for sometime.
I truly believe Garner resisted the way he did was because of his numerous prior bad acts, several open cases against him and he knew that he was spending A hot weekend in July at Rikers. Because as several people on CD pointed out he could only been issued a desk appearance ticket at the percent and send home, but because of all his priors that wasn't going to happen that day.
I really hate derailing my own thread but....This has been the point I have been trying to get by for sometime.
I truly believe Garner resisted the way he did was because of his numerous prior bad acts, several open cases against him and he knew that he was spending A hot weekend in July at Rikers. Because as several people on CD pointed out he could only been issued a desk appearance ticket at the percent and send home, but because of all his priors that wasn't going to happen that day.
I honest think it's pretty rare to even get a desk appearance ticket....only celebs, people with money or clout get that priviledge IMO...I could be wrong.....the DAT just avoid you being put through the system, but you still have to come to court obviously.
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The first time I heard this term was during a newspaper plant strike in NY in the '90s. Those who were striking had dummy heads on poles with the word "skell" written in marker on the foreheads of the dummies, to indicate what they thought of the strikebreakers.
It's really not that hard to take 2 seconds and type a word you've never heard into Google and and the word "define" when you type it into the search box. You will find out everything you need to know about it and you won't have to take time and attention away from the thread subject.
I've never heard of that term either. So, curious I did some research and apparently it falls under the classification of "cop slang". Well, I'm not a cop, none of my friends are policemen, don't know any family members who are so that explains it. It means low-life, vagrant. Learn something new everyday. Now, on with the program.
LOL. I bet a good majority of the people didn't even know the choke-hold was illegal until this case.
It is not illegal it is against Dept. Policy which is a drastically different thing. Violation of Policy gets you fired, suspended with/without pay. Violating the law will get you fined or imprisoned.
Actually, had he not had a LONG history of criminal acts it's possible the police may have ticketed him or even let him go with a warning. But because of his long criminal past, plus the fact he was on probation, any illegal activity the cops caught him doing was going to lead to his arrest and going back to jail.
I honest think it's pretty rare to even get a desk appearance ticket....only celebs, people with money or clout get that priviledge IMO...I could be wrong.....the DAT just avoid you being put through the system, but you still have to come to court obviously.
DAT's are very common now. Cops have to give DAT's unless the exceptions exist. Around your way, SAP warrants (summons) are probably real common so I bet DAT's don't happen much there.
DAT's are very common now. Cops have to give DAT's unless the exceptions exist. Around your way, SAP warrants (summons) are probably real common so I bet DAT's don't happen much there.
Police in different areas tend to give different types of tickets? Is it a precinct by precinct choice?
People with warrants cannot get summonses or DAT's. Certain parts of this city are going to have much more interaction with people who have warrants. Seventhfloor says he lives near the projects. The projects are full of people with warrants. Trust me, I know.
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