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Again, cite a legitimate self-defense case in the home where a murder charge resulted. If you can prove that is the case in NYC, I'll stop being naive.
Cite a legitimate self-defense case in the home in NYC that resulted in a murder charge.
Who said it had to happen in the house or on anyones property? I was never alluding to being shot at happening in doors. Seven out of ten times, dudes are pulling out on eachother in the street homles. Where do you live at LOL?
I agree its a shame to have to jump thru so many hoops just to pocess a .22 cal rifle in the confines of NYC, but the gun culture in New York is that it just wants thugs to pocess guns illegally and not let law abiding people to own a gun especiallyl the scarely the black looking rifles.
Has anyone gone thru the process of obtaining a permit for a rifle in NYC. I will be inheriting a collectors rifle from my father soon and would appreciate any information concerning the process to pocess it legally in NYC.
Move out of the city! You just need to pass the NICS check for any long gun in the rest of the state. However, check the list of "guns you can't own in the state at all" on the SAFE ACT list. Cuomo has it so some guns cannot be passed down, but a lever action .22 is not probably going to be on the list.(We have several .22 cal. lever, one a Henry Golden Boy and one a Winchester, they are not on any list... but lord only knows where this will go down the line.)
why would anyone want to move just to save the fee on a rifle permit ? does that make sense to you ?
if they wanted to or could move for other reasons they would have done so.
my wife and i pay the city for 2 permit fees plus a rifle shotgun fee and moving because of it to long island and paying 15-20k in real estate taxes and commuting to work would make zero sense.
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What about an antique weapon (just incase the rifle is like a real 1860s Henry Repeating rifle)?
I read something from 2009 that you dont need a permit if you dont store ammo for it, (statewise: if ammo is out of manufacture) but its really hard for the average person to find clear information on the Internet in regard to NYC. i.e. Im not sure if thats just a state law, and if so, if its now out-dated.
If the OP has true documented antiques, and has no interest in actually shooting them, just wants to display them - how does that work?
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Again, cite a legitimate self-defense case in the home where a murder charge resulted. If you can prove that is the case in NYC, I'll stop being naive.
I remember Mayor Koch on TV ages ago saying the gun would be confiscated as an illegal gun (not-permitted), but if its truely self-defense in your own home no criminal charges would result. But, that was a long time ago, and in todays political climate, I wouldnt want to have to test the theory.
If you can afford to, why not permit the gun? Seems silly to risk criminal charges over an inconvenience.
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There was a case in Brooklyn in 2003 I believe where a Navy-vet recently returned from service used a gun in self-defense which he legally purchased while serving but never registered in NYC. He was only charged with a misdemeanor gun possession charge because the self-defense shooting was justified under NY state law.
There is no Second Amendment right in NYC. All guns are supposed to be owned with permission of the police department, which is 100% unconstitutional no matter what NY's liberal judges say. Unfortunately the NRA has mostly written us off and Alan Gura has so far chosen to avoid suing NYC, so the laws stand even though they are anti-American.
Look at one of the "Constitutional Carry" states if you want to see what the Framer's intent was.
What about an antique weapon (just incase the rifle is like a real 1860s Henry Repeating rifle)?
I read something from 2009 that you dont need a permit if you dont store ammo for it, (statewise: if ammo is out of manufacture) but its really hard for the average person to find clear information on the Internet in regard to NYC. i.e. Im not sure if thats just a state law, and if so, if its now out-dated.
If the OP has true documented antiques, and has no interest in actually shooting them, just wants to display them - how does that work?
I remember Mayor Koch on TV ages ago saying the gun would be confiscated as an illegal gun (not-permitted), but if its truely self-defense in your own home no criminal charges would result. But, that was a long time ago, and in todays political climate, I wouldnt want to have to test the theory.
If you can afford to, why not permit the gun? Seems silly to risk criminal charges over an inconvenience.
it would not qualify
Exempt from permit and certificate of registration requirements
are antique rifles and shotguns incapable of being fired or discharged or which do not fire fixed ammunition or those weapons manufactured prior to 1894 and replicas for which fixed ammunition is not commercially available.
Also exempt is any unloaded muzzle loading pistol or revolver
with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system, or a pistol or revolver, which uses fixed cartridges, which are no longer available in the ordinary channels
of commercial trade. This includes replicas. A license would be required to possess these handguns when the ammunition necessary to discharge them is possessed simultaneously.
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Rifle Permit
