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I don't believe the city will ever fall that far but how much does it have to slide back before things become uncomfortable.
For whom ? because I know very few people who express concern about feeling uncomfortable in any way.
I have heard concerns about being surrounded by "dumb and dumber" folk from middle America with ready cash rather than the creative and intelligent types we once saw now and then.
History ebbs and flows. Is NYC going to resemble the 70's and 80's in the future? Of course it will. That might be 10 years from now but it might also take 100 years.
Can one person be responsible for the downfall of a mega city? Of course not. Just like 1 person can't be responsible for its resurrection. I believe that Bloomberg was a great mayor but it was not strictly because of him that NYC improved over the length of his term.
I don't think its the middle and upper class white collar Whites that see DeBlasio as a threat. It's the middle and upper-middle blue collar Whites that see their NYC disappearing around them.
Let's face it, except for Manhattan and downtown Brooklyn, the old white European feel of NYC has almost disappeared. That's what these blue collar middle and upper middle class whites are scared of. Whites are already the minority when you add Black + Hispanic population (45% v 53%). Take out Manhattan and whites are probably around 25% of the population in the outer Boroughs AND shrinking.
The whites in Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn aren't afraid because they live in their own little worlds. They couldn't care less if they were the only white people in NYC.
It's the Irish, Italians, Greeks, etc. who've been here for 3,4,or 5 generations that see how the outer boroughs have changed and they're afraid.
This is to who the NY Post plays up to. I don't think De Blasio's great nor do I think one person can have that much influence on a city of this size. Even in the Tamany Hall days, it was never William Tweed alone. There was an entire political organization behind him.
What are you talking about? Honestly I know lots of people hate prole white people like me but what are you referencing? Without the Bronx which is 10% white and densely populated this city would be more like 45% white.
Outside of the Bronx I can think of 3 areas that were "white ethnic" that have been "lost"
Bensonhurst, Flushing (bayside and Whitestone and little neck are extensions of flushing) and north side Williamsburg (my hood which is still white)
We still have 75% of SI, Howard Beach, North Astoria, Maspeth, Middle Village, Glendale, half of rockaway (from beach 85 on), the whole swathe of Midwood/Sheepshead Bay/Marine Park/Gerritsen Beach/Mill Basin/Bergen Beach as well as all of bay ridge except for 5 blocks from 75-80th street. Even in the Bronx we got Riverdale and Morris Park.
The biggest change has been that been that besides Hasidic jews, there are no specific white neighborhoods anymore (ex an Irish area, a Greek area, Italian area etc) all working class whites pretty much just live in the same areas'
I know hipsters and minorities resent us because we aren't socialists nor do we suffer from self hatred/white guilt and we believe in work but we aren't going anywhere. And if we do we are still right here next to the city so don't blow your load thinking about an NYC with no whites (except for yuppie/hipster scum who hate themselves for having european blood)
Blacks are declining much faster.
Oh if the city dislikes us so much, they should make SI independent I bet you would see every white working class person leave the city to live in the only completely safe boro that will have a govt that doesn't pander to hand out seekers and illegals..but that will never happen because you still like our tax money and the fact that we actually work unlike the newcomers who open restaurants and bodegas and don't pay taxes
Street smarts are all bull****. As I've previously stated, street smarts don't pay the bills and don't stopped you from being priced out of the city.
Crime actually went down nationally for a variety of reasons.
Speaking of technology, it makes crime harder to get away with and the fact that anyone can do a background check on you means convicted criminals may get denied housing, employment, and education. It's homelessness for them, and the homeless tend to die pretty early.
I'm sure you're a transplant bro. Street smarts are everything.
Street smarts are all bull****. As I've previously stated, street smarts don't pay the bills and don't stopped you from being priced out of the city.
Crime actually went down nationally for a variety of reasons.
Speaking of technology, it makes crime harder to get away with and the fact that anyone can do a background check on you means convicted criminals may get denied housing, employment, and education. It's homelessness for them, and the homeless tend to die pretty early.
You have no idea what you are talking about. And since when has a criminal care about back ground checks or being denied housing? NYCA has been turning a blind eye to criminals living in they're housing projects for DECADES.
I'm sure you're a transplant bro. Street smarts are everything.
No. I was born here.
And I have seen many street smart people permanently leave NYC for North Carolina, Atlanta, etc. I have seen Manhattan neighborhoods change from dumps to high end, and I have known landlords to force all their tenants out. Judges and the legal system are ultimately about money, not street smarts.
What are you talking about? Honestly I know lots of people hate prole white people like me but what are you referencing? Without the Bronx which is 10% white and densely populated this city would be more like 45% white.
Outside of the Bronx I can think of 3 areas that were "white ethnic" that have been "lost"
Bensonhurst, Flushing (bayside and Whitestone and little neck are extensions of flushing) and north side Williamsburg (my hood which is still white)
We still have 75% of SI, Howard Beach, North Astoria, Maspeth, Middle Village, Glendale, half of rockaway (from beach 85 on), the whole swathe of Midwood/Sheepshead Bay/Marine Park/Gerritsen Beach/Mill Basin/Bergen Beach as well as all of bay ridge except for 5 blocks from 75-80th street. Even in the Bronx we got Riverdale and Morris Park.
The biggest change has been that been that besides Hasidic jews, there are no specific white neighborhoods anymore (ex an Irish area, a Greek area, Italian area etc) all working class whites pretty much just live in the same areas'
I know hipsters and minorities resent us because we aren't socialists nor do we suffer from self hatred/white guilt and we believe in work but we aren't going anywhere. And if we do we are still right here next to the city so don't blow your load thinking about an NYC with no whites (except for yuppie/hipster scum who hate themselves for having european blood)
Blacks are declining much faster.
Oh if the city dislikes us so much, they should make SI independent I bet you would see every white working class person leave the city to live in the only completely safe boro that will have a govt that doesn't pander to hand out seekers and illegals..but that will never happen because you still like our tax money and the fact that we actually work unlike the newcomers who open restaurants and bodegas and don't pay taxes
All of Western Queens used to be ethnic white, but they bailed out and the immigrants came in. Now recently you have the professional whites moving in.
Old school NYC whites got priced out of areas like the Lower East Side, Hells Kitchen, Yorkville, etc a long time ago.
It really has to do with the industrial sector basically completely leaving NYC and Bloomberg rezoning industrial districts for commercial use. Well paying jobs tend to require masters degrees and they are in the corporate sector, education, or government. No one will care what your ethnicity is or whether or not you were born in NYC. Either you have the credentials for the job or you don't.
To move into a decent place, you have to make on an annual basis 40 times one month's rent, or if you're buying you're going to have to prove you can afford to buy. Again no one cares where you are from. Either you can pay or you can't.
You have no idea what you are talking about. And since when has a criminal care about back ground checks or being denied housing? NYCA has been turning a blind eye to criminals living in they're housing projects for DECADES.
No. The criminals staying in NYCHA can hide out in someone's apartment, but if a person on the is convicted they are thrown out of the apartment and if it is known that they are staying in an apartment they can and are evicted.
And you know exactly what I am talking about and you know I am right.
Street smarts don't mean ****. They really don't.
They don't pay your bills, won't get you a good job, won't get you housing (40 times one month's rent is needed in a nice part of town), won't help you buy a co-op or condo (street smarts don't show up on credit checks), etc.
It's something washed up people tell themselves to feel better about themselves. Pure fiction.
You have no idea what you are talking about. And since when has a criminal care about back ground checks or being denied housing? NYCA has been turning a blind eye to criminals living in they're housing projects for DECADES.
To be fair, I know a lot of people who do blue collar jobs that are rather street smart. I find the local immigrant who can't even speak English and has a high school education to be rather street smart. They are the type who owns a business such as pluming, construction, lock smith, etc... Most of them know how to hustle and are shrewd negotiators. They always know how to up sale me and make me pay more than I wanted to.
To be fair, I know a lot of people who do blue collar jobs that are rather street smart. I find the local immigrant who can't even speak English and has a high school education to be rather street smart. They are the type who owns a business such as pluming, construction, lock smith, etc... Most of them know how to hustle and are shrewd negotiators. They always know how to up sale me and make me pay more than I wanted to.
That local immigrant maybe living 15 people to an apartment or 50 to a house (can't speak English). They are not living in conditions that any sane person would want, and with no English language skills and probably no licenses they aren't going to financial improve.
Btw, electricians, plumbers, etc (legit ones) are licensed and they go to trade school. They're also members of unions. Those people live a lot better off and many earn decent wages.
You don't walk off the street and get those jobs. They are educated.
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