2007 NYC crime map (New York, Greene, York: apartment, crime rates, credit card)

[SuperMario]

Yeah, robberies especially occur most often with strangers.

[scatman]

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Anybody else surprised at Washington Heights minisclue crime rate?

I was at the GWB station waiting for the BX36 after 9:00pm. The most activity came from all them buses and GWB dollar vans!

[scatman]

I will say this about Northern Bed-Stuy, since I grew up there and I attend my place of worship there as well. Tompkins, Marcy and Sumner Houses have serious gang problems. But the flipside of that is you got young hipsters (I don't like that word!) renting and buying property on Myrtle Avenue, between Tompkins and Nostrand! Also, on Ellery Street, north of the PJ's, two townhouses came off the block for $675K. Mind you, that them houses are near the Bed-Stuy/Williamsburg border. So you are talking 15 minutes to Manhattan. Add to that Woodhull Hospital, and you may have doctors who want to buy property in the area. It's the classic 'crime v. location' scenario.

[Guywithacause]

Hey Scatman..do you find that the thugs/gangs are targeting these "hipsters" in any way? Because you dont hear about it in the news. If in fact they are NOT being targeted for random crimes, that would support the theory that the crime in the city is really based in the gang/thug element...and against people who know eachother.

[Guywithabrain]

This map is very odd. It combines felony violent crime+burglaries? Why burglaries. Many "robberies" are reclassified as misdemeanors or grand larcenies Why not just combine felony violent crime or all felony crime?

Originally Posted by SuperMario

Wow, look at Midtown. It had a very high crime rate. Look at Midtown south it's shaded black. Midtown east was decent as compared to Midtown north/south.

Midtown has a high crime rate due to:

Originally Posted by baylovers

The Midtown South Pct has always been a leader in reported crime for several reasons.

- The area of Times Square has always been a draw for tourists. Tourists are a draw for criminals. Three card montes, pickpockets and bag snatches contribute alot to the numbers.

- The number of commercial burglaries pump up the crime figures significantly. Anytime an office is broken into or a supply closet it gets classified as a burglary.

- Penn Station & The Port Authority Bus Terminal generate alot of crime. Bag & property theft & pickpockets again. The amount of people that commute in & out of the city daily is tremendous and most of them come through 34 St & 42 St. Remember where there are large crowds there will always be crooks looking to take advantage.

The amount of violent crime has decreased dramatically over the years in MTS Pct with the turnover of the SRO hotels like the Martinique & the Holland Hotel. Not to mention all of the change of Times Square. But because of the daily transient population, it will always be a leader in crime numbers.

You must also factor in the amount of people who go there versus the amount of people who live there. The Lower East Side has a high robbery rate becuase Avenue D and the housing projects are the ghetto. Robbery has always been a major problem in that immediate area since "gentrification" took hold. Combine that with the high number of shootings in and immediately around the projects and you have a high crime rate. If this were a map from 1978, every precinct in Manhattan would be dark.

Originally Posted by Guywithacause

This was a great post. Do you have access to what this map looked like 15/20/0r 25+ years ago so we can see the changes.

The Bronx has NO black areas, unlike Brooklyn and Manhattan, however the southern Bronx has a good chunk of darker blue which is no surprise, as does much of Central Brooklyn...again..no surprises there.

But lets look at the numbers and its pretty scary:

The highest crime numbers were:

East New York in Brooklyn had a whopping 31 murders, 40 rapes, 813 robberies, 657 assaults
vs Morris Heights in the Bronx with 19 murders, 37 rapes, 452 robberies, 510 assaults.

If you look at the sheer VOLUME of crimes occuring in Brooklyn the crime there is far higher than ANYWHERE in the Bronx. Brooklyn, by far, has the real crime problems in the city. The hard core South Bronx? 14 murders, 24 rapes, 438 robberies, 425 assaults...which is drastically lower than East New York and Brownsville, and lower than Bed-Stuy.

After all the hype about Brooklyn..large swaths are far deadlier and more dangerous than ANYWHERE in the Bronx...and yet the Bronx has not "enjoyed" the benefits of gentrification...imagine if it did? The Bronx's improvement cannot be seen on this map..however I suspect there were large swaths that WERE black and are now lighter, and there is not even one black swath....I am pleased...and we are on track to continue improving.

"The Bronx has no black areas" Thank the addition of burglaries. The Bronx has a very low number of burglaries, always had. Why? Increased security across the borough. Good luck finding a reachable window without bars covering it. Robbery and assault rates in the Bronx are among the highest in the city and comparable to the highest crime sections of other cities.

Originally Posted by SeventhFloor

i agree, it seems like most crimes are committed against people who know each other. its not like back in the day when crimes were more random.

Actually the reality is if you compare the number of stranger on stranger murders today to the same comparable year in the 60's, more homicides were between strangers now. The same goes for other crimes. This reflects a more violent culture today. There are also many more non fatal shootings and stabbings now.

Originally Posted by SuperMario

I agree with this. Projects are where the majority of crime occurs in a neighborhood. That's why Soundview IMO is undeserving of it's bad rep. Besides the point that it's crime rate isnt high, you can assume the crime it has occurs in the projects. So walking around that neighborhood isn't as bad as walking through University Heights which despite having no projects, it has a higher crime rate and all this is coming from the tenement blocks. To me the two most similar places (besides the projects) in the city are Fordham-Bedford and Soundview. These seems to be where everyone goes to for drugs.

Also it is my belief that if Uni Heights, Fordham, E. Tremont had any housing projects they would be shaded draker. That is the difference IMO in the lighter shade. Although if E. Tremont had projects, it would be shaded completely dark.

I think the projects get a bad rep. Projects have more people so more things happen. Still they get a bad rep becuase the communities around them are often just as bad. In Soundview the two biggest drug spots in the area are outside the projects. In Mott Haven plenty blocks outside the projects are as just as bad. Speaking on the 43rd precincts which covers Soundview, the reason why the color is dimmer then other high poverty areas is due to the fact the 43rd covers some lower crime areas as well. The same goes for the 47th precinct. They have borderline areas. The west halfs of both the 43rd and 47th are as bad as the 40th and 41st. The east halfs are borderline areas with hot spots.

[Futcha]

Yeah, East Harlem is "safe."

[cyrusjul]

Yeah, safer than other bad areas in the city, such as Brownsville and East New York, for example.

[Futcha]

New York's overall crime rate has dropped, but arrests have significantly gone up due to the "stop and frisk" procedure. It's stirring up controversy so I don't think this will last too long. Can't expect anything in this city to last long. One thing I've noticed about this city, we're the first to do everything and it's done quickly.

But the truth is, we can't expect the crime rate to staty low for long. A lot of lawsuits are hitting NYPD because of the way they do things. Random people are being stopped on the streets and being searched. Even photographers are suing NYPD now because they've been taking cameras and deleting images of things they find as a "threat."

This just recently began to hit NYPD hard. Expect to see some changes in crime or NYPD's method. Because lawsuits are worrying NYPD. A survey was done and the results were that 53% of police officers are worried about being sued when out on the job.

[Pete Piper]

To put NY's crime rate in perspective, in 2007 less than 500 people were murdered, while more than 5 times that (2578 to be exact) died from the flu. It pays to wash your hands.

[Guywithacause]

FutureCop...thanks for the "dont expect crime to go down any further"nonsense. That is the same negative BS that was the same nonesense with just as many "reasons"why murder would not go below 1,000...and new "reasons"why it won't go much lower than 900, and new ones for 800, 700, 600, and now 500. Same goes for crime in general....thanks for the same old story.

Thanks for the perspective Pete Piper...of course the naysayers will focus on crime/murder because its an easy target....I am glad to hear about the flu..maybe they can spend their negativity on why flu deaths will rise astronomically and wipe out civilization as we know it...there are just as many reasons for that too..and they will enjoy pointing them all out.