2007 NYC crime map (New York, Newark, York: low income, mortgage, credit)

[SuperMario]

Originally Posted by Guywithabrain

I think the projects get a bad rep. Projects have more people so more things happen. Still they get a bad rep becuase the communities around them are often just as bad. In Soundview the two biggest drug spots in the area are outside the projects. In Mott Haven plenty blocks outside the projects are as just as bad. Speaking on the 43rd precincts which covers Soundview, the reason why the color is dimmer then other high poverty areas is due to the fact the 43rd covers some lower crime areas as well. The same goes for the 47th precinct. They have borderline areas. The west halfs of both the 43rd and 47th are as bad as the 40th and 41st. The east halfs are borderline areas with hot spots.

Well cant you say the same thing about the 52nd? Up past Moshulo it isn't bad and yet it's a darker shade. But thanks for clarifying the 43rd/47th, I see where you're coming from.

[Futcha]

Originally Posted by Guywithacause

FutureCop...thanks for the "dont expect crime to go down any further"nonsense. That is the same negative BS that was the same nonesense with just as many "reasons"why murder would not go below 1,000...and new "reasons"why it won't go much lower than 900, and new ones for 800, 700, 600, and now 500. Same goes for crime in general....thanks for the same old story.

Thanks for the perspective Pete Piper...of course the naysayers will focus on crime/murder because its an easy target....I am glad to hear about the flu..maybe they can spend their negativity on why flu deaths will rise astronomically and wipe out civilization as we know it...there are just as many reasons for that too..and they will enjoy pointing them all out.

It's not nonsense, it's a fact. Even the police officers of NYPD will tell you that once they are tried for the stop and frisk procedure on pople who did nothing and have nothing on them, crime will rise. The main reason the crime rates have dropped so much is the stop and frisk procedure hence the rise in arrests made every year. Nothing here is arguable. I pretty much gave you an answer as to why NYC is so safe... When in reality it isn't. Now it's many of the NYPD police you have to watch because many of them will violate your civil rights in areas you never knew you had rights... And no, I'm not talking sexual... Geez, America these days.

And if you want, I'll list court cases against NYPD for their violation of peoples constitutional rights...

[Guywithacause]

AS I said...all your "reasons"and justifications are nothing new...its just the same old story people have been spinning for YEARS and YEARS. How many times have people written off the city as dead and over? The same old story when murders were 1,000 and crime was astronomically higher than it is now...and every year since then...great excuses...yet crime kept going down, down, down...new excuses everytime...crime/murder down, and down further. So now we are at a new arbitrary point of 500 murders...and of course....here comes the usual crew..."crime/murders can't/won't go down any further because XYZ." When murders go down to 400....will you be giving new reasons? When crime decreases further...will you continue the same old story?

The longterm trends of decreased crime/murder continue. Maybe the city will have an increase in crime this year and murder...but these year to year fluxations mean very little. The longterm trends are what matter....and they continue to be overwhelmingly positive for NYC....

[senormucholoco]

Don't know if anyone's still reading this post, but have you guys read some of these examples? I was laughing my ass off at a few.

Assult in Bed-Stuy
A security guard found another security guard sleeping at 1am, punched him, and was hit in the head in retaliation

Assault in Fort Greene
A customer threw a sign at Popeye's employees when they would not give him free chicken

Robbery in St. Albans
One man demanded a dollar from another. When rebuffed he said, "you don't understand - I eat people."

Assault in Midtown
A man upset that a 61-year-old's transaction at the NBA store was taking too long stabbed him in the head with a pen

Assault on the West Side
A 47-year-old man yelling "I'm an American, I'm going to kick your ass" choked and punched a cab driver after finding that the cab's credit card payment machine didn't take his card

[Guywithacause]

Thanks for putting some of the stats in perspective dude....not every "crime" in the stats is a gangrape or mafia assasination.

[EdgeJ]

The pen stabbing thing was just too funny. I really think I would've liked to have been there for that. Really stupid reason for committing a crime though. I mean, shouldn't he have stabbed the salesperson instead?

[Q-d0g_Bronx]

crime will be anywhere you go concrete jungle or wooded suburbans just some areas will have more then others.

[scatman]

Originally Posted by Guywithacause

Hey Scatman..do you find that the thugs/gangs are targeting these "hipsters" in any way? Because you dont hear about it in the news. If in fact they are NOT being targeted for random crimes, that would support the theory that the crime in the city is really based in the gang/thug element...and against people who know eachother.

sorry I didn't respond to this earlier.

I have not seen or heard gangs/thugs going after "hipsters". The gangs/thugs are mostly fighting and killing each other.

[stjamesnfulton]

Originally Posted by scatman

sorry I didn't respond to this earlier.

I have not seen or heard gangs/thugs going after "hipsters". The gangs/thugs are mostly fighting and killing each other.

... in ft. greene & clinton hill they are going after hipsters... muggings are on the rise unfortunately. and apartment robberies.

[cm070685]

What do you guys think of that article about the guy who moved to Bushwick and got attacked? (it's part of this same article on the NY Times website). I got really annoyed by it. He moved to Bushwick because he wanted the 'old school New York', gritty vibe, and then when he got mugged, he ran back to San Francisco. I don't think he 'deserved' to get mugged but I can't stand people who go looking for a sketchy neighborhood and then run away crying when something bad happens. Like they want some kind of 'cool' and 'hip' stage to parade around on, but they can't deal with the reality of it. He just came off as a spoiled, pretentious hipster brat. It's one thing to live in a bad area because you can't afford anything better, but doing it to be trendy is ridiculous, IMO.