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Old 03-28-2015, 05:33 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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They'll build a 6-story building that will actually be one big apartment, a "sixplex." Some spoiled, overgrown child with money to burn will buy it. S/he will soon start a petition to get the city to close the entire block down, because s/he doesn't like to hear car noise when s/he's trying to sleep.
Not necessarily. The original tenants retain their rights until rebuilding is completed - if they want them.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:21 PM
 
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Apparently not quite frequently enough. I grew up there.

You have no idea what you are talking about.
I do indeed. You're just unhappy you won't be living there any time soon with all of the recent changes there. See gentrification works WONDERS..........
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:24 PM
 
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Not necessarily. The original tenants retain their rights until rebuilding is completed - if they want them.
Rights, a very vague concept used by the poor which mean nothing.

The tenants have been wiped out. If they remain in NYC, do they have the money to fight out in court with the landlords? And will the judges rule on their side?

Defacto this is a clean slate for something else to be built there.

In this world and in this city rights are granted by money. The system cares little for the poor.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:41 PM
 
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I do indeed. You're just unhappy you won't be living there any time soon with all of the recent changes there. See gentrification works WONDERS..........
Yes, for us it would be in some ways - I own there and the last time I checked we are in "good" standing.

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Old 03-28-2015, 07:48 PM
 
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Rights, a very vague concept used by the poor which mean nothing.

The tenants have been wiped out. If they remain in NYC, do they have the money to fight out in court with the landlords? And will the judges rule on their side?

Defacto this is a clean slate for something else to be built there.

In this world and in this city rights are granted by money. The system cares little for the poor.
Let me help you out before the dumb and dumber becomes really embarrassing for you.

The law: Displaced regulated tenants retain the rights to their leases when a building becomes uninhabitable. Legally, tenants may retain these rights by paying $1 a month for the duration of reconstruction or new construction. This commonly happens after a fire, for example. It happened with a few buildings on top of the subway that needed some sort of re-grounding. And so on. It will also happen with this building.

No lawyers or courts or any legal actions are needed. This is the law. Unless the tenants decide to leave - which they can, no questions asked. They may even be bought out during this time and I would bet this happens. But again, during the time of rebuilding, the have the legal right to pay $1 a month and return once rebuilding is completed if they so choose.

This is the case because tenants are not regulated. Places are.

Behind all of the glee for the potential misfortunes of people is a person who is very unwell.
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Old 03-28-2015, 07:58 PM
 
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Let me help you out before the dumb and dumber becomes really embarrassing for you.

The law: Displaced regulated tenants retain the rights to their leases when a building becomes uninhabitable. Legally, tenants may retain these rights by paying $1 a month for the duration of reconstruction or new construction. This commonly happens after a fire, for example. It happened with a few buildings on top of the subway that needed some sort of re-grounding. And so on. It will also happen with this building.

No lawyers or courts or any legal actions are needed. This is the law. Unless the tenants decide to leave - which they can, no questions asked. They may even be bought out during this time and I would bet this happens. But again, during the time of rebuilding, the have the legal right to pay $1 a month and return once rebuilding is completed if they so choose.

This is the case because tenants are not regulated. Places are.

Behind all of the glee for the potential misfortunes of people is a person who is very unwell.
Err no. You yourself were likely displaced out of the Lower East Side, so that colors your posts.

So now you're both a psychologist and a lawyer Harlem Resident?

Yeah right.

Landlords would not be burning down buildings all across the city, which has been documented in various newspaper and other articles if there was an enforceable right for tenants to actually come back. Developers can simply rebuild and sell or rent out to whoever they want. At best the original tenants could sue and maybe get a settlement or maybe just have their court cases dismissed and get nothing at all.

Also from a practical point those people will have to live somewhere. Who knows where they will be able to live? If they end up signing leases in a new building, the new landlord isn't going to just let them out of their lease to return to the old building. In fact the new landlord could come after them for money owned if they just tried to break a lease. No one is returning, no matter what rights you claim they have.
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Old 03-28-2015, 08:04 PM
 
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Err no. You yourself were likely displaced out of the Lower East Side, so that colors your posts.

So now you're both a psychologist and a lawyer Harlem Resident?

Yeah right.

Landlords would not be burning down buildings all across the city, which has been documented in various newspaper and other articles if there was an enforceable right for tenants to actually come back. Developers can simply rebuild and sell or rent out to whoever they want. At best the original tenants could sue and maybe get a settlement or maybe just have their court cases dismissed and get nothing at all.

Also from a practical point those people will have to live somewhere. Who knows where they will be able to live? If they end up signing leases in a new building, the new landlord isn't going to just let them out of their lease to return to the old building. In fact the new landlord could come after them for money owned if they just tried to break a lease. No one is returning, no matter what rights you claim they have.

?

None of this even makes sense.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:15 PM
 
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Legally, tenants may retain these rights by paying $1 a month for the duration of reconstruction or new construction. This commonly happens after a fire, for example. It happened with a few buildings on top of the subway that needed some sort of re-grounding. And so on. It will also happen with this building.
Could you point me to a link to this law? I was unable to find it.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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Criminal charges are now possible, partly due to this revelation:

Two city officials tell ABC News investigators are now pursuing reports from tenants that they were told by building management to report gas problems to the landlord and not the energy company, Con Edison, or to 911.

Some tenants have told investigators that they were given those instructions as late as Thursday morning -- just before Con Ed inspectors were scheduled to examine plumbing in the basement.


Possibility of Criminal Charges in New York City Building Collapse Growing - ABC News
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:37 PM
 
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?

None of this even makes sense.
Because you posted an alleged law that doesn't exist and the circumstances of accurately enforcing it couldn't happen even if such a law is in the books.

Those buildings are gone. Those people living in them will have to sign leases elsewhere. Even if whatever new building was willing to take them back (not happening, new housing will likely be luxury) they cannot just break their leases and come back whenever something new arises from that site.
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