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Not everyone thrives in traditional public schools, in fact many, many don't. The culture of alternative public schools, namely, the Charters, is working out excellently for many minority kids who otherwise wouldn't have a chance due to the structural cultural limitations of the traditional schools.
Its a travesty that people are trying to take that away from the Charter school kids instead of just focusing on the huge eff-up that the traditional schools are as a group (individual good schools acknowledged. If anything, the presence of Charters has also helped the traditional schools because after sitting in the mortuary for years people have finally become motivated to say "we can do well too" and try to fix them. After 40 years of doing eff-all to fix them.
In other words, tend to your own garden and stop criticizing how the neighbors are doing theirs.
Patronizing white upper middle class people protest against the minority-filled charters makes my stomach turn.
Not everyone thrives in traditional public schools, in fact many, many don't. The culture of alternative public schools, namely, the Charters, is working out excellently for many minority kids who otherwise wouldn't have a chance due to the structural cultural limitations of the traditional schools.
Its a travesty that people are trying to take that away from the Charter school kids instead of just focusing on the huge eff-up that the traditional schools are as a group (individual good schools acknowledged. If anything, the presence of Charters has also helped the traditional schools because after sitting in the mortuary for years people have finally become motivated to say "we can do well too" and try to fix them. After 40 years of doing eff-all to fix them.
In other words, tend to your own garden and stop criticizing how the neighbors are doing theirs.
Patronizing white upper middle class people protest against the minority-filled charters makes my stomach turn.
Charter school success is a lie. Most don't do better than traditional schools and those that do have tremendous advantages. For that reason alone, you can't compare charters and traditional schools. Charters were supposed to be alternatives for kids struggling in public schools that was supposed to collaborate with traditional schools. Instead, charters are merely PR driven investments for white wealthy people who believe they know better than everyone else and try to tell those of us that live and work with the poor that we need to be more "understanding". Your stomach should be turning, but it's unfortunate that you blame the wrong people and fall for the media savvy charter campaign.
Charter school success is a lie. Most don't do better than traditional schools and those that do have tremendous advantages. For that reason alone, you can't compare charters and traditional schools. Charters were supposed to be alternatives for kids struggling in public schools that was supposed to collaborate with traditional schools. Instead, charters are merely PR driven investments for white wealthy people who believe they know better than everyone else and try to tell those of us that live and work with the poor that we need to be more "understanding". Your stomach should be turning, but it's unfortunate that you blame the wrong people and fall for the media savvy charter campaign.
I have not yet understood how it could be that people do not know this.
The fourth- and fifth-rate universities and colleges are involved in the same sorts of strategies.
And there it isn't just the for-profit schools.
Secret of charter success: teacher revolving door. Staff attrition, without concern for why it happens.
Grind brand new teachers into the ground, demanding more work without limit. Pay them less than traditional schools, for a few less discipline headaches. Prohibit unions, so job conditions never change and she's constantly ill-at-ease/manipulable over job security. When the burnt-out young teacher quits after Year One, believing it's all her fault, just hire a new one panting for her job in the "progressive" place. When parents ask, just say "It wasn't a good fit."
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Secret of charter success: teacher revolving door. Staff attrition, without concern for why it happens.
Grind brand new teachers into the ground with unending expectations of evermore work. Pay less than traditional schools, for a few less discipline headaches. Prohibit unions, so job conditions never change and she's constantly ill-at-ease/manipulable over job security. When the burnt-out young teacher quits after Year One, believing it's all her fault, just hire a new one panting for her job in the "progressive" place. When parents ask, just say "It wasn't a good fit."
Did you know that one of the principals committed suicide not so long ago ?
Well it looks like Charter Schools in the city, at least the Success group of Charter Schools are dramatically raising test results and other standards among Blacks and Hispanics.
Nice to see that it took the socialites to catch up to the Catholic schools. They were educating all regardless of color or creed 100 years ago.
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I think the public schools have things they should learn from Success.
And it is that lack of humility which has earned them much criticism. Tell me one thing the charter's do, pedagogically not theologically, that the Catholic schools weren't already doing without half of the resources????
Nice to see that it took the socialites to catch up to the Catholic schools. They were educating all regardless of color or creed 100 years ago.
And it is that lack of humility which has earned them much criticism. Tell me one thing the charter's do, pedagogically not theologically, that the Catholic schools weren't already doing without half of the resources????
Must agree on both counts, product of a Jesuit school myself.
Except - they were much better academically than most of the charters.
Nice to see that it took the socialites to catch up to the Catholic schools. They were educating all regardless of color or creed 100 years ago.
And it is that lack of humility which has earned them much criticism. Tell me one thing the charter's do, pedagogically not theologically, that the Catholic schools weren't already doing without half of the resources????
Catholic schools are also going out of business.
One must pay tuition to go to a Catholic school. The charter schools are free. I personally would rather my kid to go a charter school than a Catholic school as I have no desire to have any affiliation whatsoever with the Catholic church.
Charter school success is a lie. Most don't do better than traditional schools and those that do have tremendous advantages. For that reason alone, you can't compare charters and traditional schools. Charters were supposed to be alternatives for kids struggling in public schools that was supposed to collaborate with traditional schools. Instead, charters are merely PR driven investments for white wealthy people who believe they know better than everyone else and try to tell those of us that live and work with the poor that we need to be more "understanding". Your stomach should be turning, but it's unfortunate that you blame the wrong people and fall for the media savvy charter campaign.
Eva Moskowtiz's operations apparently do well, and her schools have gotten great results. The results of these wealthy white people speak for themselves?
And why would my stomach turn? For undergraduate and now grad school I attend universities endowed by wealthy white people. I am not opposed to educational institutions funded by them, in fact I personally greatly benefited from them.
Speak for YOURSELF about the stomach turning.
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