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Old 05-10-2015, 08:23 AM
 
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With supposedly so much talent and a large workforce, how come NY tech companies never get big and globally recognizable like Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, etc.?

Even Seattle's (just a little bigger than Staten Island) got those two giants!
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Old 05-10-2015, 09:12 AM
 
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With supposedly so much talent and a large workforce, how come NY tech companies never get big and globally recognizable like Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, etc.?

Even Seattle's (just a little bigger than Staten Island) got those two giants!
Most NYC tech companies are in Web space and in mobile app developments. These entities get swallowed up by larger tech companies. NYC does have a Tumblr office and so forth also their is a tech center partnership with Israeli tech firm and Cornell University. Also IBM has a building here in Midtown and a research facility in Mohawk Valley.

Let's not forget that Nintendo North American office is located in Seattle across from Microsoft. Even Texas is big in tech than nys. Tech scene is far more bigger out west than compared to out east but NYC is catching up but again these small tech from get swallowed up by larger entities. NYC can never surpass San Francisco and Seattle in software and NYS can never surpass Texas in computer hardware development.

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Old 05-10-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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The big banks are pouring money into their NYC tech ops.
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Old 05-10-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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With supposedly so much talent and a large workforce, how come NY tech companies never get big and globally recognizable like Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Twitter, Facebook, etc.?

Even Seattle's (just a little bigger than Staten Island) got those two giants!
Expense and out of date zoning.

IBM had entire building in midtown until the early 90's.

590 Madison Avenue - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-10-2015, 12:54 PM
 
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Silicon Valley had major institutions that did major tech research. Stanford and Berkeley. NYC had no such thing till Bloomberg funded the Cornell tech school while encouraging more research related to tech in Columbia and NYU.

The biggest tech company based in NY is IBM.
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Old 05-10-2015, 01:22 PM
 
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Silicon Valley had major institutions that did major tech research. Stanford and Berkeley. NYC had no such thing till Bloomberg funded the Cornell tech school while encouraging more research related to tech in Columbia and NYU.

The biggest tech company based in NY is IBM.
Since the OP placed this thread in the NYC forum, then it seems the OP is looking at NYC itself. IBM corporate headquarters moved to Upstate NY. NYC has had research tech grants for decades, but the parts of tech that needed tech campuses have been in Upstate NY, NJ and the Island. NYC strengths are financial, media and fashion.
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Old 05-10-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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Silicon Valley had major institutions that did major tech research. Stanford and Berkeley. NYC had no such thing till Bloomberg funded the Cornell tech school while encouraging more research related to tech in Columbia and NYU.

The biggest tech company based in NY is IBM.
Then why doesn't Boston have any of the tech giants? They have Harvard and MIT... with arguably more tech research. And I'd argue Stanford's position in tech is more a result than a cause of why Silicon valley has so much tech.
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Old 05-10-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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I occasionally get asked this having lived in both places. My belief is that it is the result of cultural factors. Even looking back at the 70's, you consider that xerox was the tech leader during those times. Many great ideas came out of there but those ideas came out of their SV office (xerox parc). Their headquarters in the East coast never appreciated those ideas and even considered them dumb. It was Apple that was able to use those ideas and build a massive company out of it. Xerox today is just known as a dinky printer company today despite having originated those ideas.

The west coast is just more tolerant of new ideas and people who are not 'typical'. The east coast is more conservative and conformist. I'm not making a value judgement here... just stating what is. There may be certain negative consequences to both. But the climate out west is more conducive to new ideas. One thing I notice about NY is that you meet people who are say, Irish or Italian and have been in the US for generations. You never find that in California. If you meet someone who identifies as Irish, they are first generation. But the notion of people only marrying their own nationality for generations is odd out west... while normal in the east.

Point is that in California, you attract people who have this open mindset. They seek to be free from baggage and maybe family. 'Weird' ideas are tolerated. Some of these are nurtured where they are more likely to be squashed out east. Another thing I notice is how gays are treated out west versus east. You still hear about gays getting attacked in ny today. It was worse in the 90's. California was just a more tolerant place and still is. It is normalizing between both places a bit, as people migrate between both. But the cultural difference is still there. That tolerance extends to ideas and people in general. As a consequence, the truly innovative companies get founded out west because the people with those ideas seek places like it.
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Old 05-10-2015, 02:42 PM
 
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First, why do talent and large workforce have to result in a giant instead of many small companies? And so what if it's not homegrown? You do realize a bunch of the companies you listed have their second-biggest offices in New York, right?

With all of that said, there is a very New York company, which though not immediately recognizable as a tech giant is a huge employer of programming talent. Can you guess which one I'm talking about?
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Old 05-10-2015, 02:51 PM
 
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Ironically, a couple of the companies mentioned in the thread(IBM and Xerox), started in Upstate NY. So, I don't know or buy that NYers aren't open to innovation. This website can give some insight into some innovative things occurring in the state: Innovation Trail
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