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Old 05-14-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Riverdale, NY
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A black man, but what does he have to do with me like what does jefferey dahmer have to do with you?

You kind of wasted you time making this stupid thread other than to falsely entertain prejudice people like yourself.


I suggest you get off logs tho, because your people are way more violent than the hammer man and you know it.

I swear there is nothing worse than a racist New York yankee. What are you doing living in New York with that attitude?
"Your people"? Talk about irony...
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:41 AM
 
Location: NYC
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How about keep them institutionalized (as this man was) and make sure he is taking his meds (he was not) so that he isn't a danger to himself or anyone else? I suppose your solution is to let these people walk around the city attacking innocent people until they have to be hunted down by the police? That doesn't seem like a plausible solution to me. He's been in and out of mental institutions and in constant run-ins with the law, so obviously he didn't just become a menace overnight now did he?
My sister is a psychiatrist who worked in ERs and sees a lot of these mental patients. A lot of them are homeless and go in and out of the system. Do you know why they get discharged? They have no insurance so no one is paying for their treatment. The hospital isn't going to just keep them there indefinitely and absorb all the costs. There are no mental wards to house all of these people.
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Old 05-14-2015, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Riverdale, NY
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My sister is a psychiatrist who worked in ERs and sees a lot of these mental patients. A lot of them are homeless and go in and out of the system. Do you know why they get discharged? They have no insurance so no one is paying for their treatment. The hospital isn't going to just keep them there indefinitely and absorb all the costs. There are no mental wards to house all of these people.
And that's the problem. They are released back into society to do God knows what. There's a big problem with the current set up that needs to be addressed.
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Bullets are cheap. We need to recognize that being a carbon life form that walks on two feet does not automatically mean human.
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Old 05-14-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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If he lives and goes to jail, as some point he's likely to get out, and be a threat again (and, after hurting or killing more people, go back to prison.) Also, we have to pay to keep him in prison.

If he's dead, the problem has been eliminated.

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Never understood this way of thinking. I'd much rather someone rot in prison. It's a much worse punishment.
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Old 05-14-2015, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Riverdale, NY
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If he lives and goes to jail, as some point he's likely to get out, and be a threat again (and, after hurting or killing more people, go back to prison.) Also, we have to pay to keep him in prison.

If he's dead, the problem has been eliminated.
So you don't believe in rehabilitation in any form? If that's the case, that means we don't need prisons either.
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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So you don't believe in rehabilitation in any form? If that's the case, that means we don't need prisons either.
nope, I dont.

you kill someone, you should be put to death, immeditely.

the boston bombers, Tsarnev, it would have taken me all of 30 seconds to determine his fate, and he would have been dead already.

hammer man, sorry, I hope he dies.
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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This guy should have been on meds and monitored. Meanwhile we are talking about prison and about how he should die. NYC is actually lucky this type of stuff doesn't happen more because I see unmedicated schizos all the time in this city.
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Old 05-14-2015, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Riverdale, NY
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This guy should have been on meds and monitored. Meanwhile we are talking about prison and about how he should die. NYC is actually lucky this type of stuff doesn't happen more because I see unmedicated schizos all the time in this city.
He was on meds. Problem was he stopped taking them.
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Old 05-15-2015, 09:06 AM
 
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All this talk about "he'll get out", here is a question. How many criminals who get life in prison actually get out of prison?
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