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Old 05-15-2015, 04:18 AM
 
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Random guy trying to break up a ghetto brawl never ends well. What a fool.



That area is already heavily gentrified. I stay there sometimes, however, I avoid that McDonalds. Tons of superior places to eat around there.
Yeah, but you know these kids don't live around there unless they live in the PJs off Navy st. And what school do they go to around there? I highly doubt Brooklyn Tech or Bishop Loughlin.

And some people get all surprised when cops stereotype certain kids when walking through nearby Park Slope all loud and stuff.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:23 AM
 
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The crowd in there didn't look too gentrified. Flatbush has quite aways to go. And yes a random guy trying to break up a ghetto brawl will not end well. He should have called the POLICE. He could have slipped away and called 911.

This is why people don't get involved in fights between ghetto hoodlums. You put yourself in danger.
This happened up in Downtown Brooklyn, not Flatbush. There has to be something that the developers can do or someone they can pay to keep the animals away from civilization.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:39 AM
 
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This happened up in Downtown Brooklyn, not Flatbush. There has to be something that the developers can do or someone they can pay to keep the animals away from civilization.
Easiest fix would be to terminate the projects. A lot of this kids grow up worshipping the thug culture and can consolidate into big groups being as they live in the same projects and go to near by school.
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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Easiest fix would be to terminate the projects. A lot of this kids grow up worshipping the thug culture and can consolidate into big groups being as they live in the same projects and go to near by school.
Wrong. The best way to eliminate people like that is through social engineering which was pioneered by the soviets, nazis and other socialists regimes along with the elimination of a class base society.
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:44 AM
 
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Wrong. The best way to eliminate people like that is through social engineering which was pioneered by the soviets, nazis and other socialists regimes along with the elimination of a class base society.
Waste of time and money. Give them $10-20k in cash and ask them to move to Detroit or the south. noble prize winner in economic Milton Friedman outline why the projects don't work and never will.
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, not Paris. #MAGA.
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This is exactly why I will not physically get involved in trying to "break" up these incidents and will only call 911 when I'm down the street and out of the way. It's also why I am careful about traveling near certain high schools/places during the commute hours. One of the main reasons why I love what gentrification has done to my neighborhood is that it has essentially led to the removal of all troublemakers like this (now, many good people were also displaced due to gentrification, but, on the whole, the change was positive). Whereas 5-10 years ago, children on my block were getting mugged and intimidated walking down Underhill, Washington, etc., you don't really hear about that anymore.
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, not Paris. #MAGA.
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Easiest fix would be to terminate the projects. A lot of this kids grow up worshipping the thug culture and can consolidate into big groups being as they live in the same projects and go to near by school.
The thing is that these students probably attend Westinghouse or Science Skills Center Campus, with most of them traveling significant distances to get there. You're right about these children worshiping thug culture, though, which is one reason why I continue to decry gangster rap/Hip Hop and the culture associated with it. But, short of removing the projects (and, let's be clear, not all projects are "problem" projects, including the Atlantic Terminal projects), which isn't likely to happen, pray for gentrification to speed up and/or people like that moving further east in the city or going down south.

My mother used to yearn to go back down south to a "better way of life," etc. But that was before our family down there was telling us about the hell that NYC transplants and others are bringing to the area. I hear similar things from people who moved to parts of Long Island 15-20 years ago to get away from all of the crap in the city. My family put in our dues (moving to Prospect Heights when it was still not the best area and living in Bed Stuy before that), so I'm glad we can see the change we see now.
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Old 05-15-2015, 05:55 AM
 
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And that's why I live on the Upper East Side and wouldn't go into a McDonald's if I were starving.
Imagine if there was a single white person sitting in one of the booths...the mob would have killed him.
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:02 AM
 
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Waste of time and money. Give them $10-20k in cash and ask them to move to Detroit or the south. noble prize winner in economic Milton Friedman outline why the projects don't work and never will.
Of course they can REFUSE the 20k. Or they can take the 20k and stay.

It's why BronxGuyanese said ghetto liquidation the way the Nazis did it is the quickest way to end the projects. I do not advocate that and I am against that.

Birth control including abortion specifically aimed at problem populations can help. Also the greater society has to integrate these people into the society or else it just will not work or get better.
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Old 05-15-2015, 06:04 AM
 
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And that's why I live on the Upper East Side and wouldn't go into a McDonald's if I were starving.
Imagine if there was a single white person sitting in one of the booths...the mob would have killed him.

No they wouldn't have. That was a fight between ghetto girls. The older Black man got attacked only because he foolishly tried to intervene and the girl's friends assaulted him. It's gang type violence where there are really just after each other, not people who don't have anything to do with the situation.
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