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Old 05-18-2015, 08:52 AM
 
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Dim City? Proposal seeks to turn off lights in some NYC buildings at night to save energy

Ridiculous proposal! World's most famous skyline that isn't even colorful and bright enough for its size unlike other major well-known skyline cities in the world may now even dim building lights at night to "save energy." I truly hope the proposal dies down - indeed, they need to make the night skyline more bright and more colorful, not less!

 
Old 05-18-2015, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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It would have the desirable side effect of being able to see something in the night sky besides the MOON.
Permanent daylight is a bore.

Keep streetlights on and first story commercial lighting on for safety. But unoccupied high rises...turn the f**kin' lights off when you leave. Hallways on for janitorial staff, okay, but beach level lighting 24/7 for everything is stupidly wasteful.
And guess what, big commercial users get Con-Ed breaks...guess who makes up the difference.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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If it's to save energy then it's fine by me.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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It would have the desirable side effect of being able to see something in the night sky besides the MOON.
Permanent daylight is a bore.

Keep streetlights on and first story commercial lighting on for safety. But unoccupied high rises...turn the f**kin' lights off when you leave. Hallways on for janitorial staff, okay, but beach level lighting 24/7 for everything is stupidly wasteful.
And guess what, big commercial users get Con-Ed breaks...guess who makes up the difference.
Yup.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: NYC
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So the guy who came up with the idea got it from Paris which doesn't really have a skyline because they don't have any skyscrapers. If we want to save energy, why are we just targeting these lights as if they were the worst culprit? Do you know how much power it takes to keep the internet running with the all data centers in the world up 24/7? Do you think all that traffic is essential or a lot of is just bored people up at night when they should be asleep? Either go all the way with saving power and green living or don't bother at all. I see no point in randomly targeting one practice when it just comes from a guy who happens to have a "brilliant" idea.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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The building owners and their tenants are paying for their own energy costs. If they want to keep the lights on, it's their prerogative.

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If it's to save energy then it's fine by me.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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The building owners and their tenants are paying for their own energy costs. If they want to keep the lights on, it's their prerogative.
What you stated is valid but I'm sure if many owners saw some of the savings figures they would consider it. I also want to point out that we all share the same system and especially during peak summer months the lights being on in these big unused commercial spaces creates extra demand on the grid that could easily be reduced.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 10:48 AM
 
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So the guy who came up with the idea got it from Paris which doesn't really have a skyline because they don't have any skyscrapers. If we want to save energy, why are we just targeting these lights as if they were the worst culprit? Do you know how much power it takes to keep the internet running with the all data centers in the world up 24/7? Do you think all that traffic is essential or a lot of is just bored people up at night when they should be asleep? Either go all the way with saving power and green living or don't bother at all. I see no point in randomly targeting one practice when it just comes from a guy who happens to have a "brilliant" idea.
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Old 05-18-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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My condo in brooklyn use to have a huge beacon that lit up at night... looked cool if you lived across the river in Manhattan.
We were sick of paying sky high electricity bill, so the board decided to turn it off

Maybe they should switch to LED/CFL lights.
 
Old 05-18-2015, 12:09 PM
 
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The owners could get that savings now if they wanted. They likely know to the nickle what it costs them. They chose not to.

As far as the grid usage, peak usage is during the day in the summer. It generally trails off somewhat at night (when AC use is less.) Those lights are on all day (as people use the offices.) So the night time use doesn't add any more stress to the grid.

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What you stated is valid but I'm sure if many owners saw some of the savings figures they would consider it. I also want to point out that we all share the same system and especially during peak summer months the lights being on in these big unused commercial spaces creates extra demand on the grid that could easily be reduced.
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