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Old 06-11-2015, 02:12 AM
 
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Read about 2 pages worth of comments then gave up.. no offense to a lot of people on this forum but a lot of people don't know what they're talking about on here.
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Old 06-11-2015, 03:26 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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huh? who is holding a gun to your head to pay the price. Surge pricing is a fantastic idea, it means you have a car available to drive you where you need to go when there's 10000 people looking for rides

I suppos you would rather have no car at no price instead of a car at a higher price??

People are dumb
It's predatory pricing and people shouldn't play along and let them get away with it. I know I don't. You know what the PM rush surcharge is for yellow taxis? $1.00!

And, you don't have sign off by saying people are dumb as your cute way of trying to imply that I'm dumb. Don't be an internet f*g.
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Old 06-11-2015, 04:06 PM
 
Location: New York City
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It's predatory pricing and people shouldn't play along and let them get away with it. I know I don't. You know what the PM rush surcharge is for yellow taxis? $1.00!

And, you don't have sign off by saying people are dumb as your cute way of trying to imply that I'm dumb. Don't be an internet f*g.
You can call me an internet homo all you want, because technically getting offended over that is probably offensive lol

But back to the topic at hand, you obviously have no clue about economics. I suggest you dust off an old copy of Adam Smith The Wealth of Nations. Goods and services have value based on supply and demand, and where demand exists with only a limited supply, price is the distinguishing factor

It only makes sense to make the price higher when there's not enough cabs to go around. That accomplishes two things: (1) it attracts extra drivers which increases supply because the higher fares make it worth their while; and (2) it forces riders to make value decisions on the extra cost. Those for who a car is truly important will pay the price and for those that it isn't will take a subway or bus and free up the taxi resource for someone else.

It makes all the sense in the world and is the fairest system possible unless you're an old school Soviet Socialist who believes in central planning, redistribution, and rations
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Great stuff, I'll try to remember that when I see a nice watch in a store. I'll just borrow it and when I get arrested I'll just say it's not stealing, it's borrowing I am not guilty by reason of semantics lolool

You want to accuse Uber of using hails, then you have to define what a hail is. I'm sure it's in the city bylaws or whatever, and you can be 100%+1 that a hail is not calling a car not present by telephone, computer, or smartphone. This particular judge appears to be biased against Uber, but it doesn't matter because he wants the city to issue summons against Uber. As soon as the first notice of violation is reported, Uber will have 5 Harvard lawyers get an injunction against the city within 24 hours
I thought I was clear that it is Uber playing with semantics. The TLC has a definition (sort of) for hails here
http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/download...chapter_51.pdf

Read it and maybe gain some understanding of the question at hand; thereby ranting less because some cab driver did something unforgivable to you 20 years ago.

Do you believe all judges are biased in rulings you don't agree with or did you really mean just this "particular judge". I have heard that some judges decide things based on the merits of what is put before them.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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And e-hail IS prearranging. Explain to me how this isn't just a technical update to calling a black car company and asking for a pick up?
An e-hail is instantaneous, not prearranged when Uber can flood midtown with cars sitting on virtually every block waiting to immediately roll down the block or around the corner.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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It's predatory pricing and people shouldn't play along and let them get away with it. I know I don't. You know what the PM rush surcharge is for yellow taxis? $1.00!

And, you don't have sign off by saying people are dumb as your cute way of trying to imply that I'm dumb. Don't be an internet f*g.
It is predatory and Uber fans should be careful what they ask for. Uber wants to be the only show in town, which wont happen, but if it did Uber would put the phony cabs that rip off tourists with $400 rides from JFK to shame. Hell, they are probably doing that already.
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Old 06-11-2015, 09:46 PM
 
Location: New York City
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An e-hail is instantaneous, not prearranged when Uber can flood midtown with cars sitting on virtually every block waiting to immediately roll down the block or around the corner.
Uber can easily program the app to only request cabs greater than X blocks away, solves that problem quite easily

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It is predatory and Uber fans should be careful what they ask for. Uber wants to be the only show in town, which wont happen, but if it did Uber would put the phony cabs that rip off tourists with $400 rides from JFK to shame. Hell, they are probably doing that already.
I'm guessing from your handle that you're a yellow cab driver. If you can't beat em join em, you should totally sign up for Uber. You'll get much better rates during rush hour
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Old 06-12-2015, 01:57 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It is predatory and Uber fans should be careful what they ask for. Uber wants to be the only show in town, which wont happen, but if it did Uber would put the phony cabs that rip off tourists with $400 rides from JFK to shame. Hell, they are probably doing that already.
Oh they rip people off at JFK all the time. I had a buddy come in from out of town and got charged like $120 for a ride to Greenwich St just above Canal. He didn't know any better and the Uber driver was just sitting there looking for suckers.

TLC has started to crack down on them at the airports though I heard, writing them tickets if they're parked in or cruising the terminals without a dispatch.
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Old 06-12-2015, 02:26 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Oh they rip people off at JFK all the time. I had a buddy come in from out of town and got charged like $120 for a ride to Greenwich St just above Canal. He didn't know any better and the Uber driver was just sitting there looking for suckers.

TLC has started to crack down on them at the airports though I heard, writing them tickets if they're parked in or cruising the terminals without a dispatch.
If you don't like the price, don't pay it. $100-$120 is about standard for an Uber ride from JFK to Tribeca. There's no shortage of yellow taxis to take for $60. Some people prefer Uber, this is America that's their right and nobody is forcing "suckers" to do anything, the phone app CLEARLY shows the price before summoning the car
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Old 06-12-2015, 05:56 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The guy was soliciting for passengers at the terminal. Uber and FHV black cars aren't allowed to do that (I reiterate for everyone who missed that point the first time I explained it). And the uber app doesn't tell you how much the ride is until it's over as far as I've ever seen.
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