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There's 2 lines, so one could go west along 125th and the other north into the Bronx.
True. If they made one line go north into the Bronx and the other go West, they could make the West line go to 125th and Broadway so one could transfer to the 2, 3 at Lenox, the A, B, C, D at St. Nicholas, and the 1 near Broadway. It would certainly increase development along 125th Street.
The other posters already answered your question. To get technical though, the IRT, BMT, and IND share the "same" tracks. It's the size of the tunnels and platforms that are the problem.
Is it by choice or with cost considerations that the new stations appear almost exactly like the old stations from almost 100 years ago? Of course they have to keep the tracks and signal systems the same but somehow I imagined these new stations would look a bit more modern like newer subway stations in cities around the world.
4 tracks cost more than two tracks. It is very simple. Also the 2nd Avenue subway isn't the only subway with just local service. The L is just local. The Culver line in Brooklyn carries both the F and G, yet they do not use the express tracks. N and Q run on Astoria line, both local.
I thought it would have express service as well. It's not going to alleviate the 4/5/6 gridlock as much as it could if it had express service. I don't think money should be an excuse for not going all the way on this.
I think the Second Avenue Subway should go to the Bronx. The 2 and the 5 trains in the Bronx are overcrowded. As the Second Avenue Subway is extended to 125th Street it will have provisions for a later expansion to the Bronx.
Agreed. Although the eastern portion of the BX (Throggs Neck) could use a line a little more. Getting to Manhattan from there is a pain. It's either local bus or the slow express bus to the 6 train. There was a petition for ferry boats in that section but I don't think it will get approved.
4 tracks cost more than two tracks. It is very simple. Also the 2nd Avenue subway isn't the only subway with just local service. The L is just local. The Culver line in Brooklyn carries both the F and G, yet they do not use the express tracks. N and Q run on Astoria line, both local.
With all the money we are paying in fares, this has to be in the plans. There's no way they take that long to make tunneling and not make an express track. Service not only needs to serve volume, it also needs to take into account shortening commute times.
Agreed. Although the eastern portion of the BX (Throggs Neck) could use a line a little more. Getting to Manhattan from there is a pain. It's either local bus or the slow express bus to the 6 train. There was a petition for ferry boats in that section but I don't think it will get approved.
Where would second ave line run through in Bronx, third avenue? The third avenue corridor could really use train service.
Where would second ave line run through in Bronx, third avenue? The third avenue corridor could really use train service.
There are tracks that run through Hunts Point that are not in use but are still there from years ago. Why couldn't they re-purpose those. MTA gets budget to hook up Manhattan but there have been no expansion projects in the outer boroughs. Pretty soon these systems will need to be upgraded. I can't see MTA going another 100 years on the same existing tunnels and justifying these increases every 2-3 years.
As far as I know, the latest is that there are no express tracks. This post is from 2009. If someone can post something more recent to show that they changed their mind and are installing express tracks, please post it
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