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Old 06-03-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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To make it out of the projects you don't necessarily have to go Ivy League or A list celebrity. You could gi to CUNYband become a public school teacher or other civil servant. Then you could buy a housenor co op in the outer boroughs. Especially if you have the stability to get married and remain in a stable relationship.
This is the best bet, and it's not going to get any better than that. This is very modest.
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Old 06-03-2015, 04:49 PM
 
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Actually the easiest way out of the projects is to not **** any out while you're currently living in them. That sadly falls on deaf ears to too many.
Ah yes. Use birth control and don't spawn kids you can't afford. Stay out of jail. And finish high school. Do these basic things and your life becomes much easier and your future much brighter.

There are people who do to criminal records are not allowed to live in projects. They stay in halfway houses and the like.
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Old 06-03-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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But I think your bitterness leaves you full of excuses. What other New Yorkers do is irrelevant. What you do is important. As Mathjak would say either you succeed or you don't.
Maybe he should file a race card lawsuit claiming that his enormous talent was ignored because of his race.

I mean ... bitter people tend to do that. Crazies as well. That is to say, in addition to making "excuses."
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Old 06-03-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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It is also funny that those who are successful, from NYC and came from nowhere were also born in a different time, a different generation, but also a different NYC that was aspirational, less competitive, and not as money, money as it is today but with the same ambition and drive. The NYC of the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s does not resonate with the NYC of today in terms of success. Those who are successful already come from established or connected backgrounds in todays NYC.
This is very true and precisely the problem.
Hard to know what to tell the kids and young people I tutor and just basically mentor.
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Old 06-03-2015, 04:57 PM
 
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This is very true and precisely the problem.
Hard to know what to tell the kids and young people I tutor and just basically mentor.
An acquaintance of mines is a city college graduate back in the early 90s. He got a job with designing bill boards. Today at his office most of the workers do not from CUNY schools but from big name colleges. The reason how he got the job is that the higher up went to city college.
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Old 06-03-2015, 05:03 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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An acquaintance of mines is a city college graduate back in the early 90s. He got a job with designing bill boards. Today at his office most of the workers do not from CUNY schools but from big name colleges. The reason how he got the job is that the higher up went to city college.
Meanwhile the low-income kids are besieged with ads for Monroe College and similar. All of that easily available private loan money.

Not to mention that there are struggles going on at CUNY, what will happen to actual education there. Why not just teach them STEM and nothing else, training over educating. In fact these struggles are going on everywhere except the ivies and a few other elite institutions. To its credit, or the credit of its faculty, I should say, CUNY has not yet entirely caved.

The wealthy will most certainly continue to actually educate their own, make no mistake.

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Old 06-03-2015, 05:08 PM
 
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Ah yes. Use birth control and don't spawn kids you can't afford. Stay out of jail. And finish high school. Do these basic things and your life becomes much easier and your future much brighter.
Yup. Pretty much. Don't get arrested, don't have babies, and finish school. Life will probably turn out OK.
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Old 06-03-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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Meanwhile the low-income kids are besieged with ads for Monroe College and similar. All of that easily available private loan money.

Not to mention that there are struggles going on at CUNY, what will happen to actual education there. Why not just teach them STEM and nothing else, training over educating. In fact these struggles are going on everywhere except the ivies and a few other elite institutions. To it's credit, or the credit of it's faculty, I should say, CUNY has not yet entirely caved.

The wealthy will most certainly continue to actually educate their own, make no mistake.
CUNY needs to look at the Berkeley or London University system for self improvement
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Old 06-03-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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CUNY needs to look at the Berkeley or London University system for self improvement
The universities need to extricate themselves from predatory value extraction, not sure this will happen though.

Being firmly embedded in said system makes the possibility of critique less likely, perhaps unlikely. So there are motivated interests, lots of money to be made (or not). It does not bode well.
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Old 06-03-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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This is very true and precisely the problem.
Hard to know what to tell the kids and young people I tutor and just basically mentor.
Avoid the fantastic 4 cities. Dc, sf, boston and nyc.
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