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Old 08-17-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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What is quite interesting here:

If it seems, given media coverage, that there are more crimes, this is entirely and solely the responsibility of de Blasio. He is cutting down on the police force, taking away their power, and this is resulting in a return to (what did someone say ?) the 1980s. Yeah. No other reason, just a different mayor.

BUT ... if there are more police around, suggesting that "someone" actually does care about public safety, that police presence is being marshaled, this is also being interpreted as an uptick in crime - read: de Blasio again.

I am far from a supporter of de Blasio, but given the amount of specious press spinning against him, I have begun to wonder if I was wrong. Perhaps he is doing things that some people don't like, and I doubt very much that these are people with whom I would have ethics, interests, anything in common.

At least two of the detractors are from New Jersey, do not even live here.

Methinks perchance the lady doth protest too much.

Something for me to think about. I always felt that de Blasio was far too weak, although he has made people panic - mostly real estate ...
It seems like most of de Blasio's critics do not even live in NYC
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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Uh...yes?
Then Good for you!
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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It seems like most of de Blasio's critics do not even live in NYC
I am thinking as well.
There are the real estate folk for sure, but I doubt very much that the big ones are posting here.
Most of them are too busy with lawyers trying to get around the new tenant protections.
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:04 PM
 
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What brand of thug-repellant do you wear and where did you get it from? Must be very effective.
Yawn

I'm a small white guy and I hang out all over NYC, "thugs" rarely, if ever, bother me
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So seeing a large police presence and hells angels walking around doesn't alarm you at all?
I've veen ging to the park several times a week for 20 years and must say it feels less safe then 20 years ago.
Guardian Angels probably mistakenly think that there's a massive surge of crime (due to the right's incessant smear campaign on de Blasio) and they want to feel useful again, as for police, it's probably just a precaution. If there is an increase in crime in Central Park though, the police being there would be the appropriate measure anyway, and hopefully it would deter future crimes.
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:05 PM
 
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Then Good for you!
Thanks! I think.

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It seems like most of de Blasio's critics do not even live in NYC
Maybe in this thread...but there is a general sentiment in NYC that he is in over his head and is too much of a self-promoter without any real substance. The poll numbers are pretty clear on that. Polls aside and on a more personal level, I'd like to think I have a diverse group of friends and coworkers and they all seem to think the same thing - There just is not much confidence in him.

Maybe he'll surprise us in the next year.
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Aliante
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I don't know. When the police turned their back on de Blasio they turned their back on the people's representative. Which essentially is turning their back on the people. When the security apparatus shows their not for the leader and appear apathetic then you get the people feeling insecure, criminals thinking they can get away with more stuff, chaos ensues, vigilante groups like the Guardian Angels are resurrected, and you have a deteriorating spiral into a failed State. The effects can be detrimental and that's very difficult to come back from. I don't know how but it sounds like they need to kiss and make up because it's in all their best interests.
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Thanks! I think.



Maybe in this thread...but there is a general sentiment in NYC that he is in over his head and is too much of a self-promoter without any real substance. The poll numbers are pretty clear on that. Polls aside and on a more personal level, I'd like to think I have a diverse group of friends and coworkers and they all seem to think the same thing - There just is not much confidence in him.

Maybe he'll surprise us in the next year.
AGAIN ... I would caution about the polls. They call people, and somewhat selectively, to create the story they want. And in that group you can participate or not. Many people do not participate. So the "statistics" produced are almost always from a very small and select group. In academia we did this to launch arguments about things, cast the data a certain way. These days the popular media has really exploited this practice aggressively.

It's like universities who tout a mythical - and indeed mythical is the appropriate term here - "return on investment."

Those statistics come from self-reported incomes. Nobody checks, and it is not at all objective.
It's actually baloney, and baloney that can cost parents enormous sums of money.

Back to de Blasio - what would be the alternative ? Even now, I would need someone really good to take the risk.

I would point out again here that when the young guy was killed at the building site, people were arrested and a contractor lost licensing. The latter had never happened before.

In addition, on another thread the FDNY currently relaxed hiring procedures came up - I am astounded that people are unaware that this has occurred NOT because of de Blasio, "the Communist," but because George W. Bush filed a lawsuit against the city demanding these changes.

I mean ... are people even aware of these facts. Because I do not recall G.W. Bush being much of a liberal, much less a socialist.
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I came into De Blasio admin hopeful and with an open mind but he's been disappointing. There's no way around it. There is a general palpable feeling out in the streets that he is in over his head and that he is soft on crime. This perception festers and malingers. Whether it is based on any real substance is debatable but it's there nonetheless and he hasn't done a good job of overcoming it. I will say that I have noticed police seems way more lax on qol issues than under past admins. For instance on Fordham Road, three card monty games had pretty much been eliminated but they have come back with a vengeance under De Blasio. These kind of things stick in people's head and are a big part of the perception.
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Old 08-17-2015, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Aliante
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There is a system to order. When the order breaks down then heads roll.

The bosses make the cuts. For de Blasio it would have to be a call from the people to do something because they are his boss. He'd do what was within in his power to do. Either firing people or telling them to get it together or else. This is depending on the severity of the situation.

Also PR stuff would be done as well to make the public feel secure such as meet and greets and awards being given out to the city heroes with lots of publicity. For the police it would be the good publicity of busting certain crimes or publicity of increased patrols and photo ops working with de Blasio and the people.
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Old 08-17-2015, 02:18 PM
 
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bigstigs; you're welcome, be careful jogging stay alert...😇.
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