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Old 09-01-2015, 01:51 PM
 
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With all the brewhaha over housing, what NYC really needs as well is a place to expand it's office district to accommodate the growing economy. What the city should push is building a new train station at Long Island City where the NJT/LIRR trains come out of the east river tunnels. There is alot of warehouses in that section of Sunnyside and could become a major business district if allowed to develop at Manhattan densities.
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:41 PM
 
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Old 09-02-2015, 04:30 AM
 
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With all the brewhaha over housing, what NYC really needs as well is a place to expand it's office district to accommodate the growing economy. What the city should push is building a new train station at Long Island City where the NJT/LIRR trains come out of the east river tunnels. There is alot of warehouses in that section of Sunnyside and could become a major business district if allowed to develop at Manhattan densities.
From what I heard the proponents for developing LIC as an alternative BD have largely given up on that hope, and instead have accepted the reality of continued development of condos in the area. Citi is leaving its building there, which will be converted into residential.
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Old 09-02-2015, 05:58 AM
 
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From what I heard the proponents for developing LIC as an alternative BD have largely given up on that hope, and instead have accepted the reality of continued development of condos in the area. Citi is leaving its building there, which will be converted into residential.
I think the city is making a mistake in that regard. Every square inch of the city can't be covered in condos or "Affordable Housing" for the city to be economically healthy. Where are the jobs going to go?
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:21 AM
 
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I think the city is making a mistake in that regard. Every square inch of the city can't be covered in condos or "Affordable Housing" for the city to be economically healthy. Where are the jobs going to go?
They've been trying for decades to turn that area into a commercial zone. It never worked. The demand isn't there.

There are still plenty of white collar jobs and plenty of space for them in Midtown. Companies have become more space efficient in recent years because they no longer need huge storage spaces for hardcopy storage and because low-level white collar jobs like secretaries, mailroom clerks, proofreaders, intraoffice delivery people, etc. have been mostly made redundant by technology.

And other neighborhoods, like Downtown Brooklyn/DUMBO, do have booming commercial office markets, in that case because of the tech industry.
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Old 09-02-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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They've been trying for decades to turn that area into a commercial zone. It never worked. The demand isn't there.

There are still plenty of white collar jobs and plenty of space for them in Midtown. Companies have become more space efficient in recent years because they no longer need huge storage spaces for hardcopy storage and because low-level white collar jobs like secretaries, mailroom clerks, proofreaders, intraoffice delivery people, etc. have been mostly made redundant by technology.

And other neighborhoods, like Downtown Brooklyn/DUMBO, do have booming commercial office markets, in that case because of the tech industry.
The companies that do operate in LIC like Uber, various film and tech companies for the most part are not using massive skyscrapers.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:59 PM
 
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I think the city is making a mistake in that regard. Every square inch of the city can't be covered in condos or "Affordable Housing" for the city to be economically healthy. Where are the jobs going to go?
Downtown/FiDi. Some of Citi's LIC jobs are moving outside of NYC. But the ones staying in NYC are relocating to the Tribeca building. New buildings in the WTC area should also attract corporate tenants looking to relocate.
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Old 09-03-2015, 06:51 AM
 
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They've been trying for decades to turn that area into a commercial zone. It never worked. The demand isn't there.

There are still plenty of white collar jobs and plenty of space for them in Midtown. Companies have become more space efficient in recent years because they no longer need huge storage spaces for hardcopy storage and because low-level white collar jobs like secretaries, mailroom clerks, proofreaders, intraoffice delivery people, etc. have been mostly made redundant by technology.

And other neighborhoods, like Downtown Brooklyn/DUMBO, do have booming commercial office markets, in that case because of the tech industry.
True, But Downtown Brooklyn can only grow so far, it's ringed in by uber-wealthy neighborhoods on every side.
Your point about LIC is well taken, however, let's not discount the city's sheer laziness in it's planning. I would build a LIRR/NJT hub there so suburban commuters can easily access it and put in for aggressive rezoning and tax abatements. I realize Manhattan is where most companies want to be, but with NY's phenominal growth we should be looking at where to expand the CBD in 40-50 years.
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:24 PM
 
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I would much rather NYC develop its new CBD along Grand Concourse.
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Old 09-03-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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I would much rather NYC develop its new CBD along Grand Concourse.
Grand Concourse is too far for the majority of city residents for the city to ever try to develop a CBD there. Grand Concourse should be redeveloped as middle class residential neighborhood a la LIC, but with it's existing beautiful housing stock.

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The city tried to develop LIC as a CBD, but honestly, the demand isn't there for developers to justify building office towers rather then residential ones. Perhaps in the future, when prices in Manhattan skyrocket even further, the city can make the push again. Honestly, though, when that time comes, LIC will be too residential for enough office space to make a proper CBD.
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