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Old 09-26-2015, 12:34 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Yes you did.
As I seem to recall as well - and quite often.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:38 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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What kills me is families both gay and straight talk about wanting to live in the City because they want their children to experience "diversity", yet when push comes to shove in their own suburban upbringing way they are just as elitist and or racist as their parents or grand-parents. Only things are reversed; instead of moving out of the City to get away from "them", now they are moving into the place but want to keep their children away from "them".

Exactly. And the newcomers expect "them" to just leave without complaint - the attitude that also grounds comments such as "people should live where they can afford to" and "hey, they are just priced out."

I would argue that they are far more actually racist than anyone before them because even basic human decency is often absent.
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Old 09-26-2015, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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What kills me is families both gay and straight talk about wanting to live in the City because they want their children to experience "diversity", yet when push comes to shove in their own suburban upbringing way they are just as elitist and or racist as their parents or grand-parents. Only things are reversed; instead of moving out of the City to get away from "them", now they are moving into the place but want to keep their children away from "them".
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Exactly. And the newcomers expect "them" to just leave without complaint - the attitude that also grounds comments such as "people should live where they can afford to" and "hey, they are just priced out."

I would argue that they are far more actually racist than anyone before them because even basic human decency is often absent.
Ding ding. These 2 sum it up perfectly.

Sadly separation instead of integration will always be a problem in all aspects of life race, gender and class
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Old 09-26-2015, 04:23 PM
 
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No it was not.

I see you've read that crappy book that is misinformation that stated this.
exactly...the nonsense some people will claim
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Old 09-28-2015, 02:07 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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Who would've thought: A zoning expansion to reduce school overcrowding is now morphing into a desegregation battle! Talk about classic "Law of unintended consequences"!
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Old 09-28-2015, 05:46 AM
 
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Exactly. And the newcomers expect "them" to just leave without complaint - the attitude that also grounds comments such as "people should live where they can afford to" and "hey, they are just priced out."

I would argue that they are far more actually racist than anyone before them because even basic human decency is often absent.
No one got priced out, nor is this an affordability issue. Its strictly the PJs. Anyone in there right mind wouldn't want to send their kids to an underachieving school. But what the heck, let's just throw the word racist in there just for the hell of it. BTW, these are the same PJs that has local political racist support against the Chinese.
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Old 09-28-2015, 05:51 AM
 
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You should got dumbo and tell those poor people with those poor kids to move down south. These schools are reserved for the privilege now.
You're right. NYCHA could raise a lot of funds by moving these people out of this particuliar area and selling the real estate. The residents can get a share of that money to do as they wish. Moving down south could be a decent option as staying here in the PJs obviously hasn't brought them much opportunity in NYC.
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Old 09-28-2015, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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No one got priced out, nor is this an affordability issue. Its strictly the PJs. Anyone in there right mind wouldn't want to send their kids to an underachieving school. But what the heck, let's just throw the word racist in there just for the hell of it.
If you move into the area why not integrate with whats there instead of separate and try to change what was in place already.

If it was an all white low income housing stock i wonder what the reaction would be?
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:36 PM
 
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If you move into the area why not integrate with whats there instead of separate and try to change what was in place already.

If it was an all white low income housing stock i wonder what the reaction would be?
It wouldn't be as vehement or visceral a reaction but they'd still let it be known (in a more subtle way) that they wanted to be separate.

The folks living in Park Slope, DUMBO, Brooklyn Heights, etc. didn't get to where they are because they aren't entitled. lol

If there is one thing for certain (not necessarily in a negative way) about yuppies, trustafarians, and the white upper middle class it's entitlement to certain things. One of those things is exclusivity of their "culture" and their children's education (as in the demographic which attends the schools) is a big part of it.
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Old 09-28-2015, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Confines of the 101 Precinct
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If you move into the area why not integrate with whats there instead of separate and try to change what was in place already.
Ahh come on son u been on CD too long to ask questions like that
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