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Old 09-24-2015, 06:11 PM
 
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I was thinking this. This is how parents with children end up in the 'burbs. They find out their precious creation is going to have to go to some substandard ghetto school. They see what good private schools cost (and how hard it is to get in.) The look for apartments in the catchment for the few good neighborhood public schools. When they see what they cost, and for what they get (and the fact that they're not in "hip" neighborhood), that gets rejected. So it's off the Chappaqua or Great Neck, which is really where they should be.

This is part of the new growing up process for hipsters.
Actually it isn't a part of the growing up process.

For those whose kids do end up in the substandard ghetto school, there are ways to fight to make these schools better.

Also since having children doesn't change the fact that parents WORK, they may prefer to live closer to their JOBS (in NYC) and closer to other things they do. Suburbs have nothing to do with families and clearly plenty of people in NYC have kids.

And actually depending on what neighborhood you live in there are plenty of good public schools in NYC, as well as the specialized public schools one must take a test to get in.

There are also after school programs that parents enroll their kids in to help their kids be ahead of the ballpark so to speak.
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Old 09-24-2015, 06:13 PM
 
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Nothing new here. It's just more liberal hypocrisy.
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Old 09-24-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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I understand both sides BUT this is why integration should happen not separation or creation and push away, etc.

Brooklyn hipsters fight school de-segregation: They
It's also partially why it will happen. One school has too many people and another school has too few people. So what's going to happen is obvious.
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Old 09-24-2015, 06:24 PM
 
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Nothing new here. It's just more liberal hypocrisy.
How do you know it's liberals behind this? The sensationalist headline is dumb anyway, they're most likely not even hipsters.
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Old 09-24-2015, 08:32 PM
 
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Total hypocrisy on the part of these left-wingers in Dumbo. They don't want to send their kids to the same school as the Farragut Houses kids. If the same thing were happening in a state such as Alabama, these Dumbo leftists would be bashing them as racist.
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Old 09-24-2015, 08:45 PM
 
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No one can say what they want to say anymore. The word has taken on new meaning. What used to be a term strictly for the most severe prejudice and discrimination now means any opposing viewpoint that doesn't coincide with another race. You don't like Obama? Oh that's cause your racist... You like Trump? Oh that's cause your racist. You're a republican/conservative? Oh that's cause your racist. Everyone is racists nowadays.
Well if the shoe fits wear it. If it doesn't fit you know it's not you.

Racism doesn't mean you're a KKK. A person who stereotypes or makes a massive generalization about another group of people is making a racist statement.

Example, if someone says all Blacks can dance or all Asians like math those are RACIST statements. Lumping together all people of any race together when they have nothing to do with each other is RACIST.
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Old 09-24-2015, 09:41 PM
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No playdates in Farragut haha
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Old 09-25-2015, 04:53 AM
 
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Actually it isn't a part of the growing up process.

For those whose kids do end up in the substandard ghetto school, there are ways to fight to make these schools better.

Also since having children doesn't change the fact that parents WORK, they may prefer to live closer to their JOBS (in NYC) and closer to other things they do. Suburbs have nothing to do with families and clearly plenty of people in NYC have kids.

And actually depending on what neighborhood you live in there are plenty of good public schools in NYC, as well as the specialized public schools one must take a test to get in.

There are also after school programs that parents enroll their kids in to help their kids be ahead of the ballpark so to speak.
That is actually the point though. Parents settle for less desirable schools to accommodate work. It's not because the NYC public schools are as great academically as Scarsdale. Even the "great" NYC school districts are suffering from overcrowdedness and wait lists. It's because they have to stay in the city in order to keep their jobs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/ny...ools.html?_r=0

http://www.westsiderag.com/2015/06/1...-board-meeting

This is of course not counting the specialized high schools but then there is still K-8 before getting there.
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Old 09-25-2015, 05:03 AM
 
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I wouldn't for one second consider the length of my commute over the quality of my children's education. That's a disgustingly selfish way to prioritize one's own concerns over that of the people who should come first. For awhile I was living very far from work, dealing with a stessful commute so that my children wouldn't have to live around filth in congested, overcrowded neighborhoods. Their public schools are top notch and the risk of crime here is nearly laughable. That's the sacrifice an actual PARENT makes, not the other way around.
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Old 09-25-2015, 05:37 AM
 
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That is actually the point though. Parents settle for less desirable schools to accommodate work. It's not because the NYC public schools are as great academically as Scarsdale. Even the "great" NYC school districts are suffering from overcrowdedness and wait lists. It's because they have to stay in the city in order to keep their jobs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/ny...ools.html?_r=0

West Side Rag » PARENTS PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER AT UWS SCHOOL BOARD MEETING

This is of course not counting the specialized high schools but then there is still K-8 before getting there.
Unless employed by certain NYC civil service these persons do *NOT* have to live in NYC. They however have chosen to do so for various reasons. Choices however have consequences...

For the record this same situation is playing out in many parts of NYC especially in Manhattan on the UES and UWS. People moved into this or that neighborhood for the public school, only to find out the place from kindergarten on up is packed and there are waiting lists. Worse there is a chance their child or children will have to go to another public school that has space but is in a, well shall we say less desirable area.
West Side Rag » UPPER WEST SIDE SCHOOLS COULD BE REZONED; MEETING THURSDAY

West Side Rag » public schools

It really is ironic to see all these so called liberal/progressive (mostly white) democrats all up in arms because their children may be going to school in da hood.

Meanwhile back on the ranch NYC private schools, especially the more famous/established ones are also facing record enrollment. Competition is keen from everything starting at pre-K through prep/high school level.

Root of this problem lies in that after decades of white flight both public and private schools saw decreasing enrolments leading many to close. The City shut down and in some cases sold off public schools now that the trend has reversed it is a struggle to keep up.
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