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Old 10-07-2015, 04:48 PM
 
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Poor people tend to be "poor" overall in intelligence, work ethic, etc. It shouldnt be a suprise that children in poor zip codes with poor parents, go to "poor" schools. Apples dont fall too far from trees in general. You take a good school, and all of a sudden make it 50% poor children, the school isnt going to be as good anymore. Its common sense .
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:09 PM
 
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Poor people tend to be "poor" overall in intelligence, work ethic, etc.
Do you have a source to back that up? Sounds like utter rubbish to me.
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:47 PM
 
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That already happens now. The kids of immigrants who do have mainstream access do indeed come to big cities to go to school and look for professional jobs, same as other Americans. But they are coming back affluent and are really no different from whites who do the same thing. The point is that as they have the opportunities immigrants/minorities move up socioeconomically and join the US mainstream. They do not want to remain isolated in ethnic ghettoes.

The current Harlem (undergoing gentrification and expansion of it's institutions for example) may be in transition but it's not a hood or an ethnic neighborhood.
Of course they don't want to remain isolated when they have the money to go elsewhere and greater access to other parts of the city.

Harlem has been "undergoing gentrification" for quite some time now. There are some who love to see it fully gentrify which I doubt will happen.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:51 AM
 
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Of course they don't want to remain isolated when they have the money to go elsewhere and greater access to other parts of the city.

Harlem has been "undergoing gentrification" for quite some time now. There are some who love to see it fully gentrify which I doubt will happen.
Black Harlem was a creation of the city. Blacks used to live in Midtown and where Central Park is now. They were cleared out and pushed into Harlem which was then considered undesirable.

Looking at the history of demographics changes in NYC and how that was controlled by federal, state, and city policies never say never.

Do I think Harlem is going to become Chelsea expensive in the next couple of years? No. Because it isn't between midtown and downtown I don't think it will ever become that expensive. But between major developers, expanding academic centers, etc you ALREADY have had considerable displacement of poor people in Harlem. You currently have an expansion of major retailers in Harlem, including Whole Foods.

The housing projects will remain but poor people are losing private housing. You won't get a section 8 apartment in Harlem these days. The people who have the best deals on apartments in Harlem are old and will die off soon or go to the nursing home. Of course landlords are generally too impatient to wait.
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Old 10-10-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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Do you have a source to back that up? Sounds like utter rubbish to me.
You must be living in Disney land. If you believe otherwise. It must be nice. http://thesocietypages.org/socimages...me-and-wealth/ there are many more articles as well regarding intelligence and income. I didnt think I would have to cite the obvious
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Old 10-10-2015, 05:34 PM
 
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Deprived children are 6 IQ points worse off than wealthy peers - and the gap widens with age | Daily Mail Online
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Old 10-10-2015, 09:48 PM
 
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Poor people tend to be "poor" overall in intelligence, work ethic, etc. It shouldnt be a suprise that children in poor zip codes with poor parents, go to "poor" schools. Apples dont fall too far from trees in general. You take a good school, and all of a sudden make it 50% poor children, the school isnt going to be as good anymore. Its common sense .
You seem to have poor intelligence if you generalize in this instance. According to your definition all non-poor are therefore of good intelligence and work ethic? For starters, do you even need me to bring you to a city office to disprove that? lol

Statistically speaking, there are enough poor people who are of fine intelligence and work ethic but are simply missing certain skill sets for reasons other than intelligence or work ethic.
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Old 10-10-2015, 09:50 PM
 
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I don't think we need studies to prove that environment has a HUGE impact on a child's development and his later lot in life.
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Old 10-10-2015, 11:26 PM
 
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You seem to have poor intelligence if you generalize in this instance. According to your definition all non-poor are therefore of good intelligence and work ethic? For starters, do you even need me to bring you to a city office to disprove that? lol

Statistically speaking, there are enough poor people who are of fine intelligence and work ethic but are simply missing certain skill sets for reasons other than intelligence or work ethic.
Obviously you seem to have poor intelligence yourself. You do not see the terms "tend" and "in general". Its laughable how people are blind or just to PC to admit to things that are so obvious.. If you were a gambler and you were going to bet on someone's total life earnings, all things being equal would you bet on the kid from person A and Person B total income of 300 K from upper east side or Person C and D's kid total income 25 K from Motthaven... Its really comical stuff how people just deny what are blatant truths about the world.
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Old 10-10-2015, 11:33 PM
 
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I suppose that everyone is created with equal intelligence and their parents intelligence has no bearing on a child's intelligence? And intelligence has no correlation to income levels? And I am ignorant? LOL LOL LOL!!! Too funny.... Sad state of affairs with this mindset nowadays.
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