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Old 10-06-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Landlord in house next door to mine was caught stealing gas and electric from the city (and charging tenants for rent + utilities). He'd put up some kind of system to siphon off the utilities from the street lines.

Tenant reported a gas smell that she thought was coming from a construction site down the street, but trucks and huge fire team found nothing wrong there. A few minutes later, a small number of men came to her place, asking to check it because she'd called in the complaint. Opening the door, a huge amount of gas smell came out. FD went in and disconnected stoves on both floors.
Aren't they required to have monoxide detector?

Now maybe the gas smells I smelled occasionally at some locations might be suspicious...
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Old 10-06-2015, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY (Crown Heights/Weeksville)
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Would monoxide detector have picked up on this? (I'm mechanically challenged, sorry). That's interesting. That LL is non-compliant in other ways I can see from outdoors, which I've reported with result that city health inspectors are following up on those things. But I don't know whether he had a monoxide detector. I think my neighbor said yes, but I'll check in with her. We talk on the stoop.

I'm told this siphoning off happens around this city. It's not "often" but it's also not unheard-of, either.

Siphoning was one of the suspicious factors of the East Village explosion, too, where a landlord called in a plumber to shut off something that it was rumored *might*have been a siphoning set-up, and the plumber says the LL told him to keep quiet. Then the explosion. All of that's being investigated now, I believe.

My real point is that, before someone jumps to blame a tenant, landlord, plumber, or original construction crew, we have to count on investigations for facts in each case. Any one of those groups could be the culprit.

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Old 10-06-2015, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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The plot thickens
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Old 10-06-2015, 06:31 PM
 
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Would monoxide detector have picked up on this? (I'm mechanically challenged, sorry). That's interesting. That LL is non-compliant in other ways I can see from outdoors, which I've reported with result that city health inspectors are following up on those things. But I don't know whether he had a monoxide detector. I think my neighbor said yes, but I'll check in with her. We talk on the stoop.

I'm told this siphoning off happens around this city. It's not "often" but it's also not unheard-of, either.

Siphoning was one of the suspicious factors of the East Village explosion, too, where a landlord called in a plumber to shut off something that it was rumored *might*have been a siphoning set-up, and the plumber says the LL told him to keep quiet. Then the explosion. All of that's being investigated now, I believe.

My real point is that, before someone jumps to blame a tenant, landlord, plumber, or original construction crew, we have to count on investigations for facts in each case. Any one of those groups could be the culprit.
Siphoning gas or bohacking electric has been going on pretty much ever since pipes and or wires were installed along with meters. Some cannot pay while others won't so the easy solution in their minds is to.... Ditto for cable television. Did short stint at TWC customer service while in college and the number one service related issue were problems caused by someone tapping into cable.

You have no small number of persons in NYC who come from themselves or perhaps their elders places where stealing (calling it for what it is) gas, electric or whatever is just a way of life. Usually the utilities are government run monopolies which makes getting over on them doubly nice.

Any-who a result of all these recent activities is that it can now take months to get Con Edison to approve any new gas work. Once they do come out if any little thing is found wrong the gas will not be turned on.
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Old 10-07-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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I don't understand why people report out stories the way they do.

First, they say it might be the removal of a stove and probably make the family have a heart attack thinking they might get charged with a crime. Heck, just read the comments left on here.

Now they think it's this: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2387769

And now they say the gas was already turned off.

I hate all of the speculation before they have the littlest bit of evidence.
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Old 10-07-2015, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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What is blue blazes would a hairdresser use on people's heads that is capable of blowing off the front of a building? That would take a LOT of peroxide.
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Old 10-07-2015, 09:14 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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What is blue blazes would a hairdresser use on people's heads that is capable of blowing off the front of a building? That would take a LOT of peroxide.
I once heard that the things they use to straighten hair are the chemicals used in embalming processes.
Who knows what such chemicals could do.
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Old 10-07-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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I once heard that the things they use to straighten hair are the chemicals used in embalming processes.
Who knows what such chemicals could do.
Chemical you are referring to is formaldehyde which is used or was used extensively as a preservative in many products including those used on hair. After being linked to causing cancer it has largely been withdrawn from many products sold in the USA and Western Europe. This or the amounts must fall below a certain small amount. However it came to light a few years or so ago that certain methods of hair straightening (mainly the Brazilian or Asian "blow-outs) used products that contained formaldehyde in high amounts.
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Aren't they required to have monoxide detector?
Carbon monoxide detectors will NOT pick up on natural gas (essentially, methane.)
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