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Old 10-25-2015, 10:56 AM
 
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DeBlasio should have maintained, hell, even enhanced the Bloomberg/Kelly era of aggressive policing. Stop & frisk should be brought back, but done more tactfully
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Old 10-25-2015, 11:03 AM
 
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DeBlasio should have maintained, hell, even enhanced the Bloomberg/Kelly era of aggressive policing. Stop & frisk should be brought back, but done more tactfully
Are you white?

Anyway I have nothing against the NYPD fighting crime of course, but stop and frisk is wrong in my opinion.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:46 PM
 
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Are you white?

Anyway I have nothing against the NYPD fighting crime of course, but stop and frisk is wrong in my opinion.
so are you saying that the ceasing of stop and frisk doesn't play a major part in terms of why crime has spiked?
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:52 PM
 
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so are you saying that the ceasing of stop and frisk doesn't play a major part in terms of why crime has spiked?
Doesn't matter. It's a violation of civil rights.


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New York City has a nice climate.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:55 PM
 
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so are you saying that the ceasing of stop and frisk doesn't play a major part in terms of why crime has spiked?
Yep I am saying that

Stop and Frisk was drastically scaled back Bloomberg's last year in office, crime still went down that year. Stop and Frisk was eliminated de Blasio's first year in office, crime still went down that year. There seemed to be an increase in certain crimes beginning a couple months after officers Liu and Ramos were killed late last year but to my understanding, it hasn't been a huge increase. And it's not like it can't decrease again.

But I do think certain areas of the city need a lot of police presence.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:57 PM
 
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Doesn't matter. It's a violation of civil rights.


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New York City has a nice climate.
Thank you
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Old 10-25-2015, 08:19 PM
 
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Doesn't matter. It's a violation of civil rights.


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New York City has a nice climate.
incorrect. the illegal manner of which officers targeted exclusively minorities, with s&f, was a violation of civil rights, not the actual practice itself. there's no law stating that NYPD can't search a suspect
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Old 10-25-2015, 08:37 PM
 
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incorrect. the illegal manner of which officers targeted exclusively minorities, with s&f, was a violation of civil rights, not the actual practice itself. there's no law stating that NYPD can't search a suspect
Isn't probable cause required for searches?
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Old 10-25-2015, 08:40 PM
 
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Isn't probable cause required for searches?
again. how they went about enforcing s&f, with certain tactics, was illegal, BUT the actual act of stop and frisk is legal
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Old 10-26-2015, 05:34 AM
 
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Isn't probable cause required for searches?
A frisk is not a search. And contrary to what the media told you, most stops did not include frisks at all.
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