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Lets recap. Didn't some poster on another thread say that East Harlem is or was gentrifying. This area is very hood and more hood than hood parts of Bronx or Brooklyn.
Commissioner Bratton and various other NYPD said exactly that in some of the interviews and press conferences in the last 24 hours.He said it was one of the most crime ridden and violent areas of the city and THE most violent and crime ridden area left in Manhattan.
Commissioner Bratton and various other NYPD said exactly that in some of the interviews and press conferences in the last 24 hours.He said it was one of the most crime ridden and violent areas of the city and THE most violent and crime ridden area left in Manhattan.
I said this when people posted asking - about five dozen times.
I pointed out the big busts ... which indicate even worse things still going on.
There's nothing wrong with the projects. Those are solidly built buildings. The people in them on the other hand........
Basically the projects were set up to house people who don't work. Blame the federal government and Robert Moses for creating them. With that said they are not necessarily a bad idea. Fix them up, maintain them, and make them for working people, the elderly, and the disabled. Deal with the criminal element.
Our liberal politicians, whether president or mayor, both delusionally think that their sons could have been these criminals. So they protect and protest on their behalf and such. They ain't dealing with this criminal element any time soon. Only hope is that the PJs fall into complete utter financial despair, leaving the only option left, which would be to bulldoze them.
Lets recap. Didn't some poster on another thread say that East Harlem is or was gentrifying. This area is very hood and more hood than hood parts of Bronx or Brooklyn.
Yes, East Harlem from 96th going north to 125 from Madison to the River *IS* gentrifying. Problem is you have pockets of bad that reside in the various projects and other subsidized housing.
Back in the days of tenements and walk-ups you had the same sort of things going on. In fact the crime rates of such areas was one of the reasons liberals and others sized upon Urban Renewal schemes.
You are never going to clean these areas up until you get at the root causes. Put in place a strong show of force that will not let up until the vermin are either put away or otherwise exterminated from the area.
Americans in particular certain classes of New Yorkers are so whipped when it comes to ridding their areas of crime. In parts of Europe the state has *NO* problems sending in and setting up large LE forces that will remain for the duration. They can and will stop anyone anytime and anywhere in such areas and demand to see ID and or what is being carried.
Another poster got it right; many of these kids live with parents who either don't know or don't want to know what their thug kids are up to. Your son has pockets full of money and tons of bling but no visible means of support, but you don't ask questions. Your daughter is carrying on and or is the same but again you ask no questions.
Can someone help me understand how jail / prison sentencing works? This guy had been getting arrested since he was 12 years old, arrested like 20 times, awaiting charges for serious crimes, etc. Yet, all you hear about from our leftist politicians is we need to reduce prison populations, reform sentencing, etc.
It seems like everytime someone has been in the news the last few years - they have a rap sheet a mile long. Some people just aren't fit to live in a free society. How are animals like this out on the street still?
The Office of Court Administration cares nothing about justice, the people of NYC, or Police Officers. They only care about numbers and dispositions.
Can someone help me understand how jail / prison sentencing works? This guy had been getting arrested since he was 12 years old, arrested like 20 times, awaiting charges for serious crimes, etc. Yet, all you hear about from our leftist politicians is we need to reduce prison populations, reform sentencing, etc.
It seems like everytime someone has been in the news the last few years - they have a rap sheet a mile long. Some people just aren't fit to live in a free society. How are animals like this out on the street still?
Rightly or wrongly NYC penal code believes in rehabilitation for the most part. NYS sentencing is complicated and confusing largely because it uses indeterminate sentences. If someone is sent up for "5-15" years they could be out on parole in as little as three years IIRC.
The only persons who serve "life" are those convicted of Class "A" felonies. Other felony convictions run a maximum of twenty-five years. Even then when you add concurrent sentences, time awarded for good behavior, time awarded for being in custody and other factors someone could be out (paroled) long before their maximum.
The Office of Court Administration cares nothing about justice, the people of NYC, or Police Officers. They only care about numbers and dispositions.
Exactly. And this quantification wants to spread itself over every aspect of life.
On other threads you have people who know nothing about education declaring the triumph of statistics - and quite speciously gleaned statistics at that.
Exactly. And this quantification wants to spread itself over every aspect of life.
On other threads you have people who know nothing about education declaring the triumph of statistics - and quite speciously gleaned statistics at that.
According to local 11PM news the shooter was out on parole because of NYS's "drug release" program. Same thing Obama is doing with the federal system; releasing thousands of persons convicted for "low" level drug offences on parole......
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