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Old 11-16-2015, 04:39 PM
 
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Yorkville needs the Second Avenue Subway SOOO bad. Ride the 4,5,or 6 lines and you will see what I mean.

On Northbound trains the #6 virtually EMPTIES by 96th Street. The need for Harlem to get another line is NOT that great.

So every effort must be made to get Phase 1 done. Nothing must slow that down, not a single penny or a single worker diverted.
No one is disputing that Yorkville needs the 2nd Ave subway badly. Absolutely no-one. But the 6 line doesn not empty at 96th. Not even close. Despite your anecdotal evidence, ridership shows that the entire Lexington Ave line needs the second ave line, not just Yorkville. The situation is worse at the UES stops, that's true but the stops in Harlem, particularly 125th, also need relief. Getting riders off the Lexington Ave line at 125th st will clear up space for UES riders on the Lexington Ave line.

I don't know what you're talking about, honestly, the only ones slowing down Phase 1 are UES residents themselves. No one else, certainly not anyone in Harlem, is calling for money to be diverted from phase 1. Phase 1 is fully funded, and is expected to open a few months behind target (spring 2017.) I repeat, not one cent has been diverted from Phase 1. But money was cut from the budget thanks to Governor Cuomo's inaction. What got cut as a result was work on Phase 2. AGAIN, I repeat, not one dime was taken from Phase 1's budget. All people in Harlem are asking for is that work on Phase 2 begin as soon as work on Phase 1 is DONE. That is not an unreasonable request.
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:32 PM
 
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I KNEW they were going to delay Phase 1 to cater to Harlem. Dammit! I guess expecting the MTA to learn the proper order of One Two Three Four might be asking for too much.
not true. with this latest update it's gonna expedite the process. part of the tunnel in EH is already constructed under second avenue. the MTA needs to use the mole to do the rest. i believe that's why the MTA is under fire. the logistics, and the money is there. they're obviously being lazy
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Old 11-16-2015, 05:39 PM
 
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No one is disputing that Yorkville needs the 2nd Ave subway badly. Absolutely no-one. But the 6 line doesn not empty at 96th. Not even close. Despite your anecdotal evidence, ridership shows that the entire Lexington Ave line needs the second ave line, not just Yorkville. The situation is worse at the UES stops, that's true but the stops in Harlem, particularly 125th, also need relief. Getting riders off the Lexington Ave line at 125th st will clear up space for UES riders on the Lexington Ave line.

I don't know what you're talking about, honestly, the only ones slowing down Phase 1 are UES residents themselves. No one else, certainly not anyone in Harlem, is calling for money to be diverted from phase 1. Phase 1 is fully funded, and is expected to open a few months behind target (spring 2017.) I repeat, not one cent has been diverted from Phase 1. But money was cut from the budget thanks to Governor Cuomo's inaction. What got cut as a result was work on Phase 2. AGAIN, I repeat, not one dime was taken from Phase 1's budget. All people in Harlem are asking for is that work on Phase 2 begin as soon as work on Phase 1 is DONE. That is not an unreasonable request.
+1

125th street and lex is a mad house at all times. EH really needs it.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:16 PM
 
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They should try something different this time, and do the phases in reverse for a change. I'm sure that would help, somehow
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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Just finish the God Damn tunnel already. Christ I could have dug one faster with a pick ax and spade shovel,
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Old 11-20-2015, 07:23 AM
 
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But the 6 line doesn not empty at 96th.
It really DOES.
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Old 11-20-2015, 10:31 AM
 
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It really DOES.
Stop trolling on such an important issue.

It does not. I took the 6 train to 96th Street for years, and there were plenty of people who stayed on that train to East Harlem and the Bronx.

Work on phase one is not being slowed down by the MTA's commitment of phase 2. To make the Second Avenue Subway fully useful to people on the East Side it will ultimately have to be built the full length of Manhattan. This also provides redundancy so at nights if need be they can shut the Lex down for repairs.
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Old 11-20-2015, 04:31 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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It really DOES.
Agree, has not changed so much.
It is the same with 59th on the west side, that has changed a bit. Although, on those trains you also have the people going to Inwood.

Do not get the denial about this. It doesn't change the fact.
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Old 11-20-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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The 4 and 5 train sure are over crowed after 86th street. Wish something could be done about that.
I'm in the Bronx and some mornings I'm on the train by 5am and there is standing room only. You'd think leaving so early you'd get a seat but nope.
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Old 11-20-2015, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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On Northbound trains the #6 virtually EMPTIES by 96th Street.
You probably only ride that way on a specific time frame cause this is not true at all.
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