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I think it's like that poster said that every once in a while they enforce it to let people know they can if they wanted to. But day to day it's not really enforced. And I travel around areas that have serious parking issues and I don't see it enforced. I happen to live in an area where finding street parking is not an issue so I'm lucky.
Don't you live in SI? I could see how it would be more of an issue there. A lot of drivers and many of the streets are narrow.
Was born and raised on the Rock (and will be there on Thursday...), but live in the City.
Honestly don't even know if they have ASSP on SI. My parents and most of our family have homes with large enough driveways plus a garage so street parking isn't needed.
Oh dearie me; you have no idea what to do with your vehicle on ASSP days for one and one-half hours if you cannot double park. This city is becoming full of hot house orchids.
So if you know so well, tell me where I should leave my car for that time? I don't know where you live but in my neighborhood its nearly impossible to find a different parking spot during cleaning time. If everyone were forced to do this it would be chaos. A lot of us have jobs and cannot sit in the car for 1 and a half hours doing nothing. Also my block does street cleaning twice a week on each side, so that's 4 out of 5 days we have to do this double parking dance.
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There is no official "allowance" just persons playing around with law of averages. Every now and then NYPD officers or even worse traffic enforcement agent or agents go on a tear; then you all better watch out. In fact am always more worried about TEAs than the Po-Po. Traffic enforcement have just one job to do and a good many of them take it *VERY* seriously. I have seen on more than a few occasions a TEA tell parked or double parked vehicles on ASSP days to "move". If they didn't and or gave him/her lip out came the scanner....
I think it depends entirely on the neighborhood and the local cops. Take a drive up Mosholu north at 8:30 one day. You'll see the entire strip is double parked from end to end. They would have to give a ticket to half the neighborhood if they were to enforce. Flow of traffic is not affected at all because all of the parked cars on one side just shift to the other. The only people who stand to lose are those trapped inside the double parked cars. If you live here and you need to get out during cleaning time you learn very quickly to get your car out before 8:30.
So if you know so well, tell me where I should leave my car for that time? I don't know where you live but in my neighborhood its nearly impossible to find a different parking spot during cleaning time. If everyone were forced to do this it would be chaos. A lot of us have jobs and cannot sit in the car for 1 and a half hours doing nothing. Also my block does street cleaning twice a week on each side, so that's 4 out of 5 days we have to do this double parking dance.
I think it depends entirely on the neighborhood and the local cops. Take a drive up Mosholu north at 8:30 one day. You'll see the entire strip is double parked from end to end. They would have to give a ticket to half the neighborhood if they were to enforce. Flow of traffic is not affected at all because all of the parked cars on one side just shift to the other. The only people who stand to lose are those trapped inside the double parked cars. If you live here and you need to get out during cleaning time you learn very quickly to get your car out before 8:30.
Bottom line is *YOU* made the choice to own a vehicle in NYC. Well choices have consequences...
It is not for me nor anyone else to find a solution to the problem of where you should "leave" your vehicle during ASSP. Again it is your car and your problem.
It is not for me nor anyone else to find a solution to the problem of where you should "leave" your vehicle during ASSP. Again it is your car and your problem.
Actually a solution has been found. It's called double parking during the street cleaning hours. Been doing it five years, never gotten a ticket, and while I do leave a note with my number on my dash, I've never gotten one phone call.
thing thing is the vast majority do not atleast in the bronx. I walked passed at least 20 Double parked cars and not one had a number written. seriously what is wrong these people?
I saw something I felt was unfair. A sweeper went through 15 minutes after the 2 hour time slot began and everyone dutifully moved their cars, some going around the block, some double parking for a couple minutes. Street got cleaned.
Then they all re-parked their cars. A few minutes later a cop came through and ticketed them all.
Seemed a bit sleazy to me even if the cars violated the "letter of the sign."
Back in NJ, you got the ticket BEFORE the sweeper, not after. Then you were preventing the street from being completely cleaned.
One has to wonder if common sense disqualifies applicants for the NYPD?
I saw something I felt was unfair. A sweeper went through 15 minutes after the 2 hour time slot began and everyone dutifully moved their cars, some going around the block, some double parking for a couple minutes. Street got cleaned.
Then they all re-parked their cars. A few minutes later a cop came through and ticketed them all.
Seemed a bit sleazy to me even if the cars violated the "letter of the sign."
Back in NJ, you got the ticket BEFORE the sweeper, not after. Then you were preventing the street from being completely cleaned.
One has to wonder if common sense disqualifies applicants for the NYPD?
on a serious note a really high IQ does. Smart enough to follow orders but too stupid to ask questions.
I saw something I felt was unfair. A sweeper went through 15 minutes after the 2 hour time slot began and everyone dutifully moved their cars, some going around the block, some double parking for a couple minutes. Street got cleaned.
Then they all re-parked their cars. A few minutes later a cop came through and ticketed them all.
Seemed a bit sleazy to me even if the cars violated the "letter of the sign."
Back in NJ, you got the ticket BEFORE the sweeper, not after. Then you were preventing the street from being completely cleaned.
One has to wonder if common sense disqualifies applicants for the NYPD?
This is an issue that flares up from time to time. Every now and then the borough presidents or someone along those lines will advocate to change the law so that you can move your car as soon as the sweeper has passed, but the city pushes back saying that sometimes the sweeper requires multiple passes (yeah, right, in some other universe maybe), and nothing every changes.
I saw something I felt was unfair. A sweeper went through 15 minutes after the 2 hour time slot began and everyone dutifully moved their cars, some going around the block, some double parking for a couple minutes. Street got cleaned.
Then they all re-parked their cars. A few minutes later a cop came through and ticketed them all.
Seemed a bit sleazy to me even if the cars violated the "letter of the sign."
Back in NJ, you got the ticket BEFORE the sweeper, not after. Then you were preventing the street from being completely cleaned.
One has to wonder if common sense disqualifies applicants for the NYPD?
Laws are not written to be "fair".
Sign clearly states "No Parking from "X" to "X"" which is the law. It always amazes me how persons want LE or whomever to use selective judgment in when to enforce. Not saying sometimes NYPD does not use their discretion, but shouldn't count on it happening all the time.
Small business owner down the street from us has one of those sketchy silver badges or whatever they are called you can purchase. They are designed to mimic or represent some sort of law enforcement ID so you can park illegally and not get tickets.
Every day this SOB parks his Mercedes in front of a church (no parking), on hydrants and does not move his car on ASSP, not a single ticket.
This morning he rolled up in front of this business just as that side of the street was being cleared of vehicles by owners because of ASSP. So he parks in front and goes inside. Comes out for a smoke and notices the sweeper is coming down the street. Does the SOB move his car? No he does not; stubs out his cigarette, glares at the sweeper and saunters over towards Starbucks.
He has been doing this for almost two years and again to date have never seen anyone touch his vehicle.
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