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So 200 other horses will go to the slaughterhouse. Keeping a horse is an expensive proposition.
Horses pull things. That's what they do. The Central Park horses look very well taken care of. Pardon the pun, but get off your high horse.
Actually your on the high horse acting as those you are more important then another living creature.
By your logic of "horses pull things" you could say well human belong in caves and hunting and gathering like they did many years ago. So get off you iPhone, move out of your apartment and go live in the wilderness and make it on your own, then you can use horses to pull "things"
They should get rid of the horse carriages in Central Park. It is not good for the horses, and it really creates a mess and stink with all the horse excrement in the lower loop. The city and the taxpayers own Central Park and have a right to determine how the park is used.
I would also ban motor vehicles except for such things as NYPD, garbage disposal, park maintenance. The purpose of the park is to be a sanctuary and recreation area for city residents, not to be a shortcut for commuters and cabs.
Sorry, but the mayor and a bunch of wealthy donors do NOT constitute "the city and the taxpayers" of NYC or any other place and do NOT have the "right to determine how the park is used". The residents of the city in the person of voters, whether they are taxpayers or politicians or NOT, only have that right.
De Basio promised his supporters to get rid of the horses, but he doesn't speak for the residents of NYC in this. The public is overwhelmingly in support of keeping the carriage horses, which is why he backed off this issue originally.
Furthermore, the Central Park Conservancy does not support removing the horses from the park. I would think that that organization wouldn't be happy losing parkland to build a stable for the handful of horses that would remain, which is the mayor's new plan.
There have been foundations and farms that have said they will take the horses and they will not go to the slaughter house. They will be able to live the rest of their lives taken care of instead of having to be the one taken care of people. I support the end of carriage rides using horses. Now if a human wants to be tied up and chooses to pull tourists around thats fine in my book.
Yeah, right. There are not enough rescue farms to take the old, broken down horses that can't work as it is, so pardon my skepticism about this claim. The fact of the matter, it would take millions of dollars to provide for these 200 carriage horses for the rest of their lives -- about 30 years -- which is why the mayor's donors won't ante up to provide the funds; it will cut into their profits.
In the real world, domestic animals exist because people use them. Fact. Dogs, cats, horses, pigs, chickens, parrots, guinea pig ... if they don't provide something for people, whether that's something emotional or something economic, then they'll disappear. This has been seen with the virtual/actual disappearance of numerous breeds of cattle and chickens because they're not useful in today's agriculture. That might not be what's "right" but that's the reality. You need to deal with it.
If you want to take up some animal rights causes, consider working to end the sale of puppies through pet shops, which keep puppy mills in business. Another cause, especially if you're interested in helping horses specifically, is the use of drugs in race horses.
As for the "mess" caused by horses on the streets, the solution is simple: a poop bag attached to the back of the carriage harness to catch the manure before it ever hits the street. They're used successfully on the carriage horses in Niagara On The Lake, Ontario, and probably lots of other places.
Actually your on the high horse acting as those you are more important then another living creature.
By your logic of "horses pull things" you could say well human belong in caves and hunting and gathering like they did many years ago. So get off you iPhone, move out of your apartment and go live in the wilderness and make it on your own, then you can use horses to pull "things"
Completely agree.
The ridiculous and unchecked exploitation of animals and of the natural world broadly speaking is one of the major signs of the true disfunction of our current society.
If you want to take up some animal rights causes, consider working to end the sale of puppies through pet shops, which keep puppy mills in business. Another cause, especially if you're interested in helping horses specifically, is the use of drugs in race horses.
Ummm ... most of the people concerned about the horses do care about this issue as well.
Actually your on the high horse acting as those you are more important then another living creature.
By your logic of "horses pull things" you could say well human belong in caves and hunting and gathering like they did many years ago. So get off you iPhone, move out of your apartment and go live in the wilderness and make it on your own, then you can use horses to pull "things"
Liberalism gone too far. Next thing you know, folks like you will be fighting for the right to live for bacteria and viruses, even at the expense of letting people die. You people are so brainwashed with that bleeding heart liberal nonsense, you've lost your senses.
First off, I am a nature/animal lover but at least I realize that it's okay sometimes to harness nature for one's own benefit. Horses are beasts of burden. They have been domesticated (along with cattle, donkeys, llamas, camels, etc) since prehistory to do things for people. You're talking about literally billions and billions of these animals over all these thousands and thousands of years. Many would not even have been born and lived if not for man. One can argue as a species, they might not be as successful or even survived this long if not for people having a use for them.
Who knows, you might not even be here today, if not for the horse being used as a beast of burden. You see, when man learned to harness these animals for work or transportation, it opened up a whole new world for mankind. Society developed and population grew and expanded.
Lastly, we're not talking about these animals getting abused here. They are treated better than even some people (homeless or poor people get regular meals? Medical care? A warm place to sleep?). I know you bleeding heart liberals won't ever understand and I'm almost certain you will come back to say some other nonsense (probably like, oh but we don't live in an agrarian society no more, we don't need horses to do work anymore, blah blah blah). My argument would be that it doesn't matter. These domesticated horses' existence is to serve people. Their purpose is not to roam around some ranch and eating hay all day. They would not be in existence (and neither would their offspring) if that is the case.
The horses should only stay if it is proven to be in their best interests.
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Yes, go right to the source and ask the horse.
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Or people could realize they have brains and use them.
Oh, wait ...
I take it that your not much of a fan of Mr Ed.
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