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Old 12-08-2015, 07:07 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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Did you see the prices on those properties at the bottom of the article? Man.....you are this close to paying the mansion tax on those 2 apartments.
Right ...
More worth it perhaps than other more "hip" areas but still a factor for many people.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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You think Hamilton Heights/Vinegar Hill was Dominican during the 60's?
No, by the time Dominicans moved in noticeable amounts to that area whatever White ethnic group had lived there earlier in the century had long since moved on to another part of the city or tri-state area. Dominicans didn't really displace anyone when they came into that area so don't really see what you are alluding to.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:13 AM
 
Location: West Harlem
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No by the time Dominicans moved in noticeable amounts to that area whatever White ethnic group had lived there earlier in the century had long since moved on to another part of the city or tri-state area. Dominicans didn't really displace anyone when they came into that area so don't really see what you are alluding to.
Dominicans are not necessarily being displaced. People moving into so-called HH are not taking the places where they live but buying.

I know a few Dominican families who are going back by choice, not being displaced from residences but the general conditions in the city now broadly speaking. And even there, not pushed out but just not happy here any longer. I wondered whether this could indicate a broader trend.

That said there are three buildings below City College that are seeing a lot of change in terms of tenancy. One of these 'investment groups" working to - what's the phrase ? - "maximize rental income."
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Dominicans are not necessarily being displaced. People moving into so-called HH are not taking the places where they live but buying.

I know a few Dominican families who are going back by choice, not being displaced from residences but the general conditions in the city now broadly speaking. And even there, not pushed out but just not happy here any longer. I wondered whether this could indicate a broader trend.

That said there are three buildings below City College that are seeing a lot of change in terms of tenancy. One of these 'investment groups" working to - what's the phrase ? - "maximize rental income."
Yeah the broader trend for a few years now has been that Dominicans are moving away from Manhattan and away from NYC in general. But I definitely think some people are being displaced in hamilton heights. Yes. At least some displacement is happening in every part of the city that has been gentrified. By displacement I mean LL's actively (or depending how you look at it inactively by not doing repairs) trying to get people to move or buying people out.
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Old 12-08-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: NYPD"s 30th Precinct
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Any families moving into the area? Where are they sending their kids to school?
That's the big question for me. I've lived here for the past five years, but now I have a kid on the way.
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Old 12-08-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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No, by the time Dominicans moved in noticeable amounts to that area whatever White ethnic group had lived there earlier in the century had long since moved on to another part of the city or tri-state area. Dominicans didn't really displace anyone when they came into that area so don't really see what you are alluding to.
No, They moved further north on The Island to Washington heights, St Elizabeth's parish or Inwood.

67 Hamilton Place was an atrocious building. The area became cocaine wholesale distribution area. Also was the epic center of the NYPD Dirty Thirty scandal.

Now the area is on an upswing. A new group is coming in which is great.
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Old 12-08-2015, 02:59 PM
 
Location: West Harlem
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67 Hamilton Place was an atrocious building. The area became cocaine wholesale distribution area. Also was the epic center of the NYPD Dirty Thirty scandal.

Now the area is on an upswing. A new group is coming in which is great.
I think "upswing" could an exaggeration ...
One of our friends was looking at a place there and would not agree.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:45 PM
 
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The thing is though there have been families living in NYC, in every neighborhood forever!!!! But now you have people who make it ALL ABOUT THEIR DAMN KIDS. It's SO BARF! I am so sorry I am acting out on this board against this phenonmenon, but it makes me so sick that I literally HAVE to leave!!!! It's so ugly. I can't think of anything in life that grosses me out more than walking down a narrow street with my dog and having to deal with dorks pushing strollers. GTOFMW!
What's truly amazing is they act as if "families" or the institution of family wasnt there from the start.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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No ... as a family we are 90% Harlem native - the 10% would be the fact that with family here I lived most of my life downtown with the "art" branch.

Amusing inarticulate babble about One-Dimensional Man, which, as coincidence would have it, I just taught with the seminar last week. I suggest you read Marcuse more carefully and try to get what he means. This would prove worthwhile, and your post exemplified for me the very worst possibilities regarding dearths of critical thinking that he suggested.

The assumption that all black families live in poverty is also "amusing" - oh, perhaps not so much. It is quite typical of the more stupid neoliberal viewpoints, which are certainly present in your post.
As the folks say, they are "something else," aren't they?
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:49 PM
 
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What's truly amazing is they act as if "families" or the institution of family wasnt there from the start.
The kinds of families they care about weren't there, clearly.
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