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Old 12-15-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:00 AM
 
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And there are even more who end up having to leave the profession or not even being able to get into the profession.

In order to become a lawyer for example not only must one do well on the LSATs, one has to graduate law school and pass the bar. That process alone weeds out a lot of people. The reality of starting your career as a lawyer weeds out a lot of people.

So clearly a person who became a lawyer was good at the academic work. Not everyone can do that.

Ditto for something like engineering or medical school. Not everyone is able to study for those fields. It's extremely difficult and expensive to study something you don't like, and that right there will eliminate huge numbers of people who wanted to go into those professions for the money (the actual requirements).
That happens sometimes and often it doesn't because people become accustomed to a certain lifestyle and they can't figure out how to leave the money behind.

BTW, I did. I left the corporate word and became a social worker. It was a tough transition.

A better approach to this would be to create incentives to get the most talented black and brown students to consider teaching as a profession.

Considerations include cost of living in NYC (shouldn't developers create affordable housing for teachers?)

How about giving them free education at two of the best teaching preparation schools around (Brooklyn College & Queens College)?

How about loan forgiveness in graduate school? They will need the Masters degree to remain employed by the DOE and to increase earnings.

How do you encourage people with college degrees that working for entities like the MTA, despite higher entry level salaries, may not be the best options in the long run?

There are so many factors ... so many questions ... I could chat about this more but work is calling me.
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:01 AM
 
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NYC always draws talented people willing to stay with the DOE. That is not the problem.
I don't agree that they STAY.
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Old 12-15-2015, 02:28 PM
 
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when i grew up, almost all my teachers were Jews.

I wasn't left with any impression that Jews were superior to me.

then again, I have a S-B IQ of 152 and my parent loved each other and provided my brother and I a modest, loving home environment.




Is this what liberals and leftist kooks think? black teachers will make black kids feel better about themselves?

Ugh. You know what will make black kids feel better about themselves? A modest, stable home environment.

Period, the end.
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Old 12-15-2015, 09:19 PM
 
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when i grew up, almost all my teachers were Jews.

I wasn't left with any impression that Jews were superior to me.

then again, I have a S-B IQ of 152 and my parent loved each other and provided my brother and I a modest, loving home environment.




Is this what liberals and leftist kooks think? black teachers will make black kids feel better about themselves?

Ugh. You know what will make black kids feel better about themselves? A modest, stable home environment.

Period, the end.
Me too! Going to public school in the mid 1980s - all my teachers from kindergarten to 5th grade were Jewish - and they were all old and awesome
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Old 12-15-2015, 09:30 PM
 
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I think 150 IQ which is extremely rare, is the median IQ for forum posters. LOL!
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Old 12-15-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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I think 150 IQ which is extremely rare, is the median IQ for forum posters. LOL!
very rare. 1 in ~3000 C.I.

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Old 12-16-2015, 01:37 AM
 
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when i grew up, almost all my teachers were Jews.

I wasn't left with any impression that Jews were superior to me.

then again, I have a S-B IQ of 152 and my parent loved each other and provided my brother and I a modest, loving home environment.




Is this what liberals and leftist kooks think? black teachers will make black kids feel better about themselves?

Ugh. You know what will make black kids feel better about themselves? A modest, stable home environment.

Period, the end.
A modest, stable home is impossible without a good JOB.

So if you want that you shouldn't be so opposed to the city employing Black (along with Asian and Hispanic) ADULTS as teachers.
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Old 12-16-2015, 01:56 AM
 
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A modest, stable home is impossible without a good JOB.

So if you want that you shouldn't be so opposed to the city employing Black (along with Asian and Hispanic) ADULTS as teachers.
I made no claim to stand in opposition. Besides, I wasn't aware that NYC was prohibited from hiring black teachers? This is a canard.

A modest, stable home is easy to provide for a child if it's a priority for 2 married adults. I'm sure you agree with this, yes?
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Old 12-16-2015, 03:27 AM
 
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I made no claim to stand in opposition. Besides, I wasn't aware that NYC was prohibited from hiring black teachers? This is a canard.

A modest, stable home is easy to provide for a child if it's a priority for 2 married adults. I'm sure you agree with this, yes?
I don’t agree. Plenty of unmarried couples happen to be great at providing stable homes. Familial stability does not entirely depend on a marriage certificate.
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