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Old 01-14-2016, 08:37 PM
 
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Says the Hillary and Bernie Sanders supporter.

No more Democrats for the love of God. Look what you have done to NY, California, Detroit, and Chicago.

You instill terrible morals in people with your "social programs."

You have taught people to vote for the candidate who can provide them with benefits instead of voting for the greater good of all Americans. You have tried to make criminals into the victims, and cops the enemy. You have attempted to squash 1st amendment rights by telling everyone that doesn't agree with you that they're racists, homophobes, etc. I don't consider myself a republican at all, just an independent. But liberal policies need to GO before it destroys this country further. I could never, in a million years vote for another democratic candidate unless he was extremely moderate every again. It goes against all common sense, reason, and logic to continue to vote for liberal policies that hurts the middle class (what's left of it).

if you think we can continue down this road of liberal policies, you have no foresight whatsoever. They are unAmerican values you are installing into the minds of people in this country.

I care about 4 things:

1) Getting REAL (private sector) jobs back in this country
2) Getting people who mooch off the system to stop milking the taxpayer (sorry but giving other people money is not equality)
3) stop getting government involved in every little thing ( LIMITED GOVERNMENT is a primary tradition American value)
4) Honoring the Constitution

I know liberals in my daily life who will ask me why conservatives are against "any and all firearm restrictions."

A) Nobody trusts liberals. You give a little now, and they come back in a few months and want even more restrictions.
B) 90 million Americans own firearms own guns, and guess what? They don't shoot anyone!!
C) Criminals don't follow laws

Harlem Resident, please read up on the founding fathers and educate yourself. You need some serious enlightenment. Good night and God Bless America
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Old 01-14-2016, 08:46 PM
 
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But I believe there were also big migrations in the 1920s and again in the 1950s.
And so which one do you think black people were bribed by welfare to make?
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Old 01-14-2016, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Harlem, NY
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There are more white people on welfare than minorities. This stigma is tired.
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Old 01-14-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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Hey I wanted to start off saying I am not trying to offend anyone and I am of Puerto Rican descent myself. However I have heard more than once about how politicians brought blacks and Puerto Ricans into New York City by offering them welfare. Is this true or is this a myth? I cannot find any information on the internet with the exception of I think one or two posts I found here on cd. I know that Blacks and Puerto Ricans arrived to New York City to find factory jobs at around the same time when these jobs were starting to disappear but I don't know if them being enticed by welfare is true or not.
This is just misinformation promogulated by stereotypes.

You know...the usual.
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Old 01-14-2016, 09:17 PM
 
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And so which one do you think black people were bribed by welfare to make?
The shade of it all. Ain't it wonderful?
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Old 01-14-2016, 09:18 PM
 
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There are more white people on welfare than minorities. This stigma is tired.
Proportionate to population, that's not true

However, only a small percentage of people in general are on welfare, so I do agree the stigma is tired. If you count food stamps/EBT as welfare, it's still only a minority of any given ethnicity that uses it. It's also worth noting that a higher percentage of whites are on EBT than Latinos, I wonder if Trump supporters would ever admit that.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:20 AM
 
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Proportionate to population, that's not true

However, only a small percentage of people in general are on welfare, so I do agree the stigma is tired. If you count food stamps/EBT as welfare, it's still only a minority of any given ethnicity that uses it. It's also worth noting that a higher percentage of whites are on EBT than Latinos, I wonder if Trump supporters would ever admit that.
There are also 5 year limits on cash assistance and to get cash assistance coming in you have to be seriously going out for a job or job training. The only people who can get long term government assistance in cash without looking for work are those on disability. I think a lot of right wingers forget that in the 90s Clinton signed the Republican welfare reform into law.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:25 AM
 
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Originally Posted by xTiberiusx View Post
Says the Hillary and Bernie Sanders supporter.

No more Democrats for the love of God. Look what you have done to NY, California, Detroit, and Chicago.

You instill terrible morals in people with your "social programs."

You have taught people to vote for the candidate who can provide them with benefits instead of voting for the greater good of all Americans. You have tried to make criminals into the victims, and cops the enemy. You have attempted to squash 1st amendment rights by telling everyone that doesn't agree with you that they're racists, homophobes, etc. I don't consider myself a republican at all, just an independent. But liberal policies need to GO before it destroys this country further. I could never, in a million years vote for another democratic candidate unless he was extremely moderate every again. It goes against all common sense, reason, and logic to continue to vote for liberal policies that hurts the middle class (what's left of it).

if you think we can continue down this road of liberal policies, you have no foresight whatsoever. They are unAmerican values you are installing into the minds of people in this country.

I care about 4 things:

1) Getting REAL (private sector) jobs back in this country
2) Getting people who mooch off the system to stop milking the taxpayer (sorry but giving other people money is not equality)
3) stop getting government involved in every little thing ( LIMITED GOVERNMENT is a primary tradition American value)
4) Honoring the Constitution

I know liberals in my daily life who will ask me why conservatives are against "any and all firearm restrictions."

A) Nobody trusts liberals. You give a little now, and they come back in a few months and want even more restrictions.
B) 90 million Americans own firearms own guns, and guess what? They don't shoot anyone!!
C) Criminals don't follow laws

Harlem Resident, please read up on the founding fathers and educate yourself. You need some serious enlightenment. Good night and God Bless America
What benefits? What benefits are people being bribed on?

You do realize that welfare benefits provide so little money unless one is basically just not ever going to leave the house outside of going to the store for food and supplies that it isn't viable life.

You contradict yourself with 1 and 3. You claim you want to get real private sector jobs in this country. But if you believe in limited government then you should believe corporations have the right to hire and do business where they please.
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Old 01-15-2016, 04:52 AM
 
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Really ?! Because I always had the sense that they were inclined to steal any fish that were not nailed down, so to speak. Big old fish grab. I could be wrong, of course.

And don't you support Trump ...? Because I think there are stories about Trump's own brand of fish stealing-type activities and such.

Trump's workers may face a not-so-golden retirement - CBS News

Nevada unions to Trump: pay your hotel?s workers fair wages » peoplesworld

Does Trump Care Enough About His Workers? This Union Says No. | The Daily Caller

And:

Black Employees at a Trump Casino Were Reportedly Removed Whenever the Donald Arrived | Mother Jones
^^Please disregard the above, liberal propaganda^^
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Old 01-15-2016, 04:53 AM
 
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Originally Posted by xTiberiusx View Post
Says the Hillary and Bernie Sanders supporter.

No more Democrats for the love of God. Look what you have done to NY, California, Detroit, and Chicago.

You instill terrible morals in people with your "social programs."

You have taught people to vote for the candidate who can provide them with benefits instead of voting for the greater good of all Americans. You have tried to make criminals into the victims, and cops the enemy. You have attempted to squash 1st amendment rights by telling everyone that doesn't agree with you that they're racists, homophobes, etc. I don't consider myself a republican at all, just an independent. But liberal policies need to GO before it destroys this country further. I could never, in a million years vote for another democratic candidate unless he was extremely moderate every again. It goes against all common sense, reason, and logic to continue to vote for liberal policies that hurts the middle class (what's left of it).

if you think we can continue down this road of liberal policies, you have no foresight whatsoever. They are unAmerican values you are installing into the minds of people in this country.

I care about 4 things:

1) Getting REAL (private sector) jobs back in this country
2) Getting people who mooch off the system to stop milking the taxpayer (sorry but giving other people money is not equality)
3) stop getting government involved in every little thing ( LIMITED GOVERNMENT is a primary tradition American value)
4) Honoring the Constitution

I know liberals in my daily life who will ask me why conservatives are against "any and all firearm restrictions."

A) Nobody trusts liberals. You give a little now, and they come back in a few months and want even more restrictions.
B) 90 million Americans own firearms own guns, and guess what? They don't shoot anyone!!
C) Criminals don't follow laws

Harlem Resident, please read up on the founding fathers and educate yourself. You need some serious enlightenment. Good night and God Bless America

^^AMEN brother!!!^^ Right about now liberal's heads are exploding....lol
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