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Weird. I guess I got used to them too without even realizing it. When they were installed outside my building, and right outside my bedroom window I was pretty angry and thought they looked terrible, very institutional and make people look like corpses, but after seeing this thread I realized I haven't even though about it since then. Brains are crazy.
They're not great for health - melatonin suppression and disturbed sleep. The docs are recommending the light visual temp be no higher than 3000K, and that they be shielded (they shouldn't shine into people's windows for a start, just downwards onto the street).
Class action lawsuit against the city should make em fix it.
^ you have to wonder why changing these lights were never thought out for human health.
it just seems like everything is a money thing.
the lights are terrible for driving, they shine right in your face and are disturbing.
^ you have to wonder why changing these lights were never thought out for human health.
it just seems like everything is a money thing.
the lights are terrible for driving, they shine right in your face and are disturbing.
New LED lights weren't a money thing they were a common sense thing. Less maintenance to replace, less use of electricity, and better lit streets. Obviously no one was paying attention to how bright is too bright but they'll eventually adapt to the doctor recommendations
There are complaints about this in just about every neighbourhood where they arrive.
I just changed all the hi hats in my home to LED (2700k). I received the same complaints from just about everyone in my home. Wife made me install dimmers.
Interesting article, although the opening line grated on me...
"The American Medical Association (AMA) has just adopted an official policy statement about street lighting: cool it and dim it."
According to the actual article, it seems the AMA wants what would be a warmer temperature, not a cooler one. If the writer wanted to be cute, he should have learned a little more about the topic.
While not mentioned in the article, I wonder if a filter on the light enclosure would solve both problems. Lower the light temp and dim it a little. That might be less costly than replacing the LED themselves.
I gotta say no, and I look often and carefully.
Although Mars was nicely visible near the full moon this week.
I hope you are right, ABG.
I'm probably noticing it more because it is already one of the "darker" areas of the city all things considered. Especially on the Korean War Veteran's Parkway it seems particularly noticeable to me.
I just changed all the hi hats in my home to LED (2700k). I received the same complaints from just about everyone in my home. Wife made me install dimmers.
Interesting article, although the opening line grated on me...
"The American Medical Association (AMA) has just adopted an official policy statement about street lighting: cool it and dim it."
According to the actual article, it seems the AMA wants what would be a warmer temperature, not a cooler one. If the writer wanted to be cute, he should have learned a little more about the topic.
While not mentioned in the article, I wonder if a filter on the light enclosure would solve both problems. Lower the light temp and dim it a little. That might be less costly than replacing the LED themselves.
That might work - probably a relatively cheap fix like you say
^ you have to wonder why changing these lights were never thought out for human health.
it just seems like everything is a money thing.
the lights are terrible for driving, they shine right in your face and are disturbing.
I now make a conscious effort not to look at them during night time driving, they lead to a temporary glare halo if I accidentally do look directly at them. I've got 20/20 vision too!
It seesm unthinkable they didn't seriously study this before making a widespread change. I guess they just listened to the LED industry-sponsored consultants' report.
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Wife made me install dimmers.
