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Old 04-05-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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Those of us who oppose some of these mandates don't actually oppose the outcome (better maternity leave, etc.). What we do question is whether the mandate itself is beneficial. I'm all for companies offering more generous benefits and perks to recruit and retain top talent. What I am less enthusiastic about is it being mandated by the government.

A lot of the larger companies have deep pockets and economies of scale so they can absorb the increased cost of regulations much better than their smaller competitors. Remember, big business is often in bed with big government as big government can put big businesses' competitors out of business, or make it harder for smaller competitors to grow or form in the first place. This benefit (of reduced competition from small competitors) can outweigh the increased regulatory burden.
In this case, you also have to consider those who are hired by big companies with excellent benefits are usually more financially secured, while those who work for small business tend to have fewer benefits and also less financially secured. And the latter are what this paid leave policy meant to protect, this is called fundamental human right.

A great country has to come from a strong root, that means the people. However, if people are shortsighted about the value of a stable family environment, it will cause the entire society more problems in the end.
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Old 04-05-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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This is good i don't see what the problem is. Unpaid maternity leave is very common in the workforce which results in pregnant women on unemployment or disability to collect some kind of income. This is a win for women in NYC.


Persons should have their affairs in order before deciding to have children.
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Old 04-05-2016, 04:14 PM
 
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In this case, you also have to consider those who are hired by big companies with excellent benefits are usually more financially secured, while those who work for small business tend to have fewer benefits and also less financially secured. And the latter are what this paid leave policy meant to protect, this is called fundamental human right.

A great country has to come from a strong root, that means the people. However, if people are shortsighted about the value of a stable family environment, it will cause the entire society more problems in the end.
Higher regulations and higher taxes lead to more unemployment. How does higher unemployment benefit society?
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:14 PM
 
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You have to look at this from the bigger picture; Cuomo is attempting to cement his progressive/liberal/democratic chops for a future WH run, likely in 2020. He can add pushing through the minimum wage increase and paid family leave to SSM and a few other things to his C.V. Oddly it was getting through gay marriage that at the time was suppose to have made him a top contender for the 2016 race, but instead the party has "ABC" (Anyone But Cuomo).


We haven't heard the last of AC on his recent accomplishments; the man is heavily pushing to be the keynote speaker at the democratic convention, and as we all know just like his father AC loves the sound of his own voice.....
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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In this case, you also have to consider those who are hired by big companies with excellent benefits are usually more financially secured, while those who work for small business tend to have fewer benefits and also less financially secured. And the latter are what this paid leave policy meant to protect, this is called fundamental human right.

A great country has to come from a strong root, that means the people. However, if people are shortsighted about the value of a stable family environment, it will cause the entire society more problems in the end.

How odd families were stable well before various government interventions.. how did my parents, grand-parents and other generations survive? From the amount of whinging that goes on you'd think women today were the first to have children.....
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:20 PM
 
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How odd families were stable well before various government interventions.. how did my parents, grand-parents and other generations survive? From the amount of whinging that goes on you'd think women today were the first to have children.....
Great post! Families were actually much more stable in the past (when the government was less onerous) than they are today.
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Old 04-06-2016, 06:28 AM
 
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How odd families were stable well before various government interventions.. how did my parents, grand-parents and other generations survive? From the amount of whinging that goes on you'd think women today were the first to have children.....
Why not take a look into the history of women education and women workforce and we can discuss this more? Most women in our parents (this part of statement may or may not be correct because I have no clue how old you are) and our grandparents' generation are not bread winner and majority of them are stay home moms. Single income, back that time, usually is enough to support the entire family. And now we are in 2016, everything changes and the policy needs to be updated as well.
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