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Old 05-06-2016, 07:40 PM
 
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If one can not afford to live in NYC....then they should not live in NYC.

Why the government feels the need to subsidize generations of people so they can live where they want, I will never understand.
Who's gonna work at the places that pay min wage then?
You need employees at restaurants, retail stores, gyms, offices, etc etc etc.
You need people to work the lower paying jobs therefore you need to have affordable housing so they have a place to live.
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Old 05-06-2016, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Who's gonna work at the places that pay min wage then?
You need employees at restaurants, retail stores, gyms, offices, etc etc etc.
You need people to work the lower paying jobs therefore you need to have affordable housing so they have a place to live.
Why wouldn't the free market self-regulate? If there is no affordable housing around, then employers will naturally need to pay more to attract employees to work in high cost of living areas.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:23 PM
 
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Why wouldn't the free market self-regulate? If there is no affordable housing around, then employers will naturally need to pay more to attract employees to work in high cost of living areas.

Employers already factor the high COL of NYC and surrounding areas into wages. That is one of the reasons places pack up and leave and or transfer a certain percentage of work elsewhere.


Wages for a newly licensed RN start in NYC between $75K and $85K (if not a bit more) with experienced nurses pulling in easily three digits. Outside of other high cost of living areas such as much of California nurses do not see that kind of money. In places like Texas those with years of experience barely break above $70K.


The high wages paid to employees is one of the reasons things cost so much here as those costs are passed along to consumers of said goods or services.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:27 PM
 
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Employers already factor the high COL of NYC and surrounding areas into wages. That is one of the reasons places pack up and leave and or transfer a certain percentage of work elsewhere.


Wages for a newly licensed RN start in NYC between $75K and $85K (if not a bit more) with experienced nurses pulling in easily three digits. Outside of other high cost of living areas such as much of California nurses do not see that kind of money. In places like Texas those with years of experience barely break above $70K.


The high wages paid to employees is one of the reasons things cost so much here as those costs are passed along to consumers of said goods or services.
No they don't. There are plenty of employers that pay their employees $8 an hour.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:29 PM
 
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Why wouldn't the free market self-regulate? If there is no affordable housing around, then employers will naturally need to pay more to attract employees to work in high cost of living areas.
Employers don't pay their employees enough now and rents are high. You really think the girl working at Duane Reade can afford to live in NYC on her salary or the people who work at clothing stores can afford to live in NYC?
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Old 05-06-2016, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Employers don't pay their employees enough now and rents are high. You really think the girl working at Duane Reade can afford to live in NYC on her salary or the people who work at clothing stores can afford to live in NYC?
That girl is living somewhere with roommates or family.
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Old 05-07-2016, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Manhattan
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Will the $15/hr actually help the impoverished? Would the cost of living not just increase along with the minimum wage? In absolute dollars, they'd be making more money, but will they also have more buying power in the long run? I'm not convinced they will.

The COL will not escalate proportionally because everything is produced abroad and only the minimum wage increase in China will stimulate price inflation.
So yes, the $15 wage will help the impoverished in the U.S., and in New York City.


Again, hysterical that someone would claim how little $75,000/year is in the City yet begrudge someone else $31,200/year (that the $15 full time wage.) Geez, I thought they beheaded Marie Antoinette but it seems she lurks on City-Data.
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Old 05-07-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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Who's gonna work at the places that pay min wage then?
You need employees at restaurants, retail stores, gyms, offices, etc etc etc.
You need people to work the lower paying jobs therefore you need to have affordable housing so they have a place to live.
Why subsidize mega-corporations? Make them pay a wage worth living on.
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Old 05-09-2016, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Manhattan
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You need people to work the lower paying jobs therefore you need to have affordable housing so they have a place to live.

Fine, then just make the "lower paying jobs" not quite so low paying.
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Old 05-23-2016, 06:09 PM
 
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it afforable housing for working class , not walwafe beggers
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