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Old 05-18-2016, 05:16 PM
 
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Again, Hasidim are a group with a high poverty rate in NYC.
Why is it so surprising that many of them have Section 8?
Borough Park, Brooklyn, for example (a largely hasidic/ultra-Orthodox Jewish neighborhood) has one of the highest poverty rates in the city.
Hasidim is a umbrella name for multiple subgroups. Only a few subgroups are listed as having a high poverty rate, but it is not all the subgroups. The list of subgroups known as dynasties are listed below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hasidic_dynasties

The leading group is the Satmar and they live primarily in Williamsburg and not Borough Park.
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Old 05-18-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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Jews want to populate again after WW2.
It is now 70 years later and the Jews globally is still around 2 million less then they were before WW2.
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Old 05-18-2016, 05:27 PM
 
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One evening, I saw a bus, on Underhill Avenue in Prospect Heights, where all the men were in the front and the women were in the back. It looked so obvious. However, I had no proof as to whether the seat makeup was by choice.
Yes it was by choice.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/20/ny...view.html?_r=0
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Old 05-18-2016, 06:58 PM
 
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Hasidim is a umbrella name for multiple subgroups. Only a few subgroups are listed as having a high poverty rate, but it is not all the subgroups. The list of subgroups known as dynasties are listed below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hasidic_dynasties

The leading group is the Satmar and they live primarily in Williamsburg.
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Old 05-18-2016, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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This is like the worst kept secret. Hasidic Jews, some of the are genuinely very poor but I feel many have gotten extremely good at gaming the system. They have become masters at being "paper poor." This combined with their political power of being a protected community gives them a lot of impunity.
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Old 05-18-2016, 07:35 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Its possible because they're scam artists, it's a damn near religious obligation to scam goyim (read between the lines of some of your favorite OT stories lifted from the torah).... and yet they're scamming the State of Israel as well. Lot of baby making orthodox and fundies on Israeli welfare claiming to spend all their time studying the Torah.

These *******s are mad sexist and racist to boot. And they don't care that their traditions are not sound even by Mosaic law. It's tradition, therefore **** you and Moses. They run a business based on guilt.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:51 PM
 
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People associate Judaism with wealth and power
Clearly people are mistaken.
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:53 PM
 
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Hasidim is a umbrella name for multiple subgroups. Only a few subgroups are listed as having a high poverty rate, but it is not all the subgroups. The list of subgroups known as dynasties are listed below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hasidic_dynasties

The leading group is the Satmar and they live primarily in Williamsburg and not Borough Park.
Which Hasidim don't have a high poverty rate (besides Chabad)?
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Old 05-18-2016, 09:54 PM
 
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It is now 70 years later and the Jews globally is still around 2 million less then they were before WW2.
This is terribly sad.
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:24 PM
 
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So a while back someone had made a thread about housing in NY and how it seems that in the projects women just keep having child after child to take advantage of their section 8 voucher. They were referring to minority women because whenever you mention Section 8/Welfare queens whether in this forum or in general the face that people associate with it are minorities or to be more specific black faces.

I made the comment that in actuality the biggest abusers of the system were Jews or to be more specific Hasidic Jews. I even told them how they worked the system over by having a ton of kids (it's quite normal to look in their voucher/file and see that they have 8-9 kids each born a year apart) and kids give you a credit on the voucher towards your rent, so the more kids you have, the more credits you get which in turns lowers your portion of the rent.
So having 8-9 kids and then claiming you are not working = you paying basically $0 rent.
However that is not the catch because they are working but they are working off the books and in their community/group. They won't get jobs outside the community because that might force them to pay taxes etc so its off the book work, get paid under the table however because they pay no taxes, there is no way for there case worker to find out because 9/10 times that money is not going into a bank account. It's going into their money jar in the house that is hidden in a cupboard somewhere.
So paying $0 in rent as well as getting food stamps and welfare and any other program the city has, they are on it.

So as I said blacks are far from being the biggest "drain" as some say on the system.

Imagine my surprise now to see this article pop up in the Daily News saying the exact thing I said just a couple days ago.

Hasidic neighborhood in B'klyn is a top beneficiary of Section 8 - NY Daily News

Why do poor people in NYC have so many kids!?
But they seem to have money to buy up all the houses around the Lakewood NJ area

Toms River among towns restricting door-to-door solicitation amid Hasidic influx - News - NorthJersey.com

They can basically buy out all the residents, and then move in, make it uncomfortable for everyone else and eventually buy those leftover houses.
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