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Old 05-18-2016, 10:25 PM
 
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Not news to me either. One of the poorest places in the US is Kiryas Joel which is about an hour north of the city. The town is all Hasidic Orthodox Jews. They are the largest collectors of welfare in that town. They are also trying to buy up the houses in the neighboring towns and offering cash on hand. My cousins, aunt and uncle live in one of the towns close by and said it's been a constant struggle between the towns and them trying to take over.
If they have that kind of money, why wont gubment audit them?
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:31 PM
 
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Many hispanics are in fact black as well. Racial statistic I put little stock on because at the end of the day its what people view themselves and you can check any box you want to.

And besides that, whats worse a large demographic of people abusing the system who are in fact wealthy, with assets in real esate and businesses using our tax paying dollars when they don't need it? Or people who are generationally poor and have nothing to their name? Hasidic jews been scamming the system for decades and they are continually allowed to get away with it also without the negative connotations that comes with being on welfare
Exactly.
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:33 PM
 
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Which Hasidim don't have a high poverty rate (besides Chabad)?
In Brooklyn its hard to tell, but head up to Monroe to tell that a neighborhood is poverty stricken. Knowing the cost of a shtreimel and seeing them everywhere is not a sign of poverty. Houses are in good condition, there are numerous Toyota Siennas, people are well dressed. From what I know being a former Hasid, the poverty is on paper only. The reality is that they are a socialist community and do many back room under the table transactions in cash. There are so many things they go to gain the maximum gov't handouts and subsidies. Keep in mind that these are done collectively. NYC/NYS is pretty complicit in it due to block voting.


$20M Hasidic Fraud Suspects Claimed To Be Millionaires and Paupers
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:33 PM
 
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Did you hear the Feds raided Kiryas Joel last week?
Did anything come about from those raids?
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:37 PM
 
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How does this come as a shock to anyone? Only way to get rid of the abuse is to stop voting for it.
Only if you get a candidate who will stop it.
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:40 PM
 
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In Brooklyn its hard to tell, but head up to Monroe to tell that a neighborhood is poverty stricken. Knowing the cost of a shtreimel and seeing them everywhere is not a sign of poverty. Houses are in good condition, there are numerous Toyota Siennas, people are well dressed. From what I know being a former Hasid, the poverty is on paper only. The reality is that they are a socialist community and do many back room under the table transactions in cash. There are so many things they go to gain the maximum gov't handouts and subsidies. Keep in mind that these are done collectively. NYC/NYS is pretty complicit in it due to block voting.


$20M Hasidic Fraud Suspects Claimed To Be Millionaires and Paupers
From what I understand lots of hasids and other ultra-Orthodox/yeshivish don't work.
So it stands to reason they would be poor, no?
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:45 PM
 
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It is now 70 years later and the Jews globally is still around 2 million less then they were before WW2.
Well, their numbers were dwindled a lot. And in modern times people live longer and have kids later in life, so the generations are longer. So 70 years is only like two generations really.
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Old 05-18-2016, 10:53 PM
 
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Only if you get a candidate who will stop it.
In NY, zip.
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Old 05-18-2016, 11:06 PM
 
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From what I understand lots of hasids and other ultra-Orthodox/yeshivish don't work.
So it stands to reason they would be poor, no?

They do work, just in their community. The hasidic are known to be completely detached from society, don't pay taxes, ignore basic rules and laws but somehow still want to use tax paying dollars to benefit them. They scam and fraud the government like the pros they are. Many may be poor, but you NEVER seen a Homeless Hasidic person have you?
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Old 05-18-2016, 11:11 PM
 
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From what I understand lots of hasidim and other ultra-Orthodox/yeshivish don't work.
So it stands to reason they would be poor, no?
In each sect there is a group that works. They get a legal paycheck for a low wage that is taxed and they also get a cash envelope. Of the money they get, a certain percentage goes to the sect. The legal wage is purposely kept low so they still get gov't benefits.

fyi: Yeshivish is slang Yiddish mostly spoken by the the UO Yeshiva crowd. The word you probably would have used is haredi.
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