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Old 05-29-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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Is the level of gentrification in Chicago is on par with legacy cities such as DC or NYC?
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Old 05-29-2016, 06:33 AM
 
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Depends on how you measure residential segregation; NYC has a lot of mixed black-hispanic neighborhoods, and few almost all black neighborhood unlike Chicago. But neither city has many many mixed black-non hispanic white neighborhood.

The black and white areas of Chicago are more separated from each other than in NYC, where they are sometimes not that far apart and people travel between neighborhoods anyway.
NYC also has other combinations of neighborhoods

White/Hispanic (Throgg's Neck)

Asian/Hispanic (Sunset Park, Elmhurst)

White/Black/Hispanic (Briarwood)

Everything under the sun (Kensington)


There are some neighborhoods which are heavily black though, many in Southeast Queens, as well as Central/Eastern Brooklyn. But there don't seem to be neighborhoods that are 80+% Hispanic, probably just Corona.
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Old 05-29-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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NYC also has other combinations of neighborhoods

White/Hispanic (Throgg's Neck)

Asian/Hispanic (Sunset Park, Elmhurst)

White/Black/Hispanic (Briarwood)

Everything under the sun (Kensington)


There are some neighborhoods which are heavily black though, many in Southeast Queens, as well as Central/Eastern Brooklyn. But there don't seem to be neighborhoods that are 80+% Hispanic, probably just Corona.
I noticed that more neighborhoods tend to be mixed white and Hispanic, rather than white and black.
Anyone have a sense why?
Hispanics seem to move into formerly white neighborhoods more than black people do: I am thinking of Woodside, Sunnyside, Bensonhurst, Gravesend, ec.
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Old 05-29-2016, 08:36 AM
 
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I noticed that more neighborhoods tend to be mixed white and Hispanic, rather than white and black.
Anyone have a sense why?
Hispanics seem to move into formerly white neighborhoods more than black people do: I am thinking of Woodside, Sunnyside, Bensonhurst, Gravesend, ec.
White ethics and hispanics share commonalities such as Catholic faith. This could be why many hispanics moved into such areas.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:07 AM
 
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Agreed. But still, even those graduate school-educated cab drivers don't tend to be the people committing crimes...
Which does not prove that those committing crimes are not of Caribbean descent as well. NYC had Caribbean immigrants since the 40s, and there are few Black families here that don't have Caribbean or Latino connections.

Some of the worst victims of police assault now that I think about it were African or Caribbean. Louima, Diallo, etc. A Black immigrant cab driver isn't living in a "nice" neighborhood. They're living in the same neighborhoods as poor African Americans, and their kids will grow up with the same problematic education, and probably will face the same issues in the job force.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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White ethics and hispanics share commonalities such as Catholic faith. This could be why many hispanics moved into such areas.
NYC also has more Hispanics moving in than Blacks. For obvious reasons. The hospitality sector mainly employs Mexicans to do the work. Ditto construction. You'll see some Dominicans in hospitality and construction as well.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:10 AM
 
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NYC also has other combinations of neighborhoods

White/Hispanic (Throgg's Neck)

Asian/Hispanic (Sunset Park, Elmhurst)

White/Black/Hispanic (Briarwood)

Everything under the sun (Kensington)


There are some neighborhoods which are heavily black though, many in Southeast Queens, as well as Central/Eastern Brooklyn. But there don't seem to be neighborhoods that are 80+% Hispanic, probably just Corona.
The only Black neighborhoods that don't have an influx of whites or hispanics would be perhaps the ones in Southeast Queens. Bedstuy and Flatbush have gentrification going on, which is starting to touch even Brownsville and East New York.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:13 AM
 
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White ethics and hispanics share commonalities such as Catholic faith. This could be why many hispanics moved into such areas.
Plus a lot of those neighborhoods she mentioned are immigrant heavy in general.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:15 AM
 
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Caribbean and African blacks tend to be better educated than African Americans. At least the ones who end up here do if my experience at the taxi garage was any indication. They're well-spoken, tend to not use the N word or street slang, and were always ready to banter about politics or current events. Culturally very different people.
How does not using street slang make you better educated?

I've even met homeless people who could talk about current events or politics? Btw the kids of Black immigrants, if they grow up in Black neighborhoods, generally talk the same as African Americans.
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Old 05-29-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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Which does not prove that those committing crimes are not of Caribbean descent as well. NYC had Caribbean immigrants since the 40s, and there are few Black families here that don't have Caribbean or Latino connections.

Some of the worst victims of police assault now that I think about it were African or Caribbean. Louima, Diallo, etc. A Black immigrant cab driver isn't living in a "nice" neighborhood. They're living in the same neighborhoods as poor African Americans, and their kids will grow up with the same problematic education, and probably will face the same issues in the job force.
I live in Baldwin and I'm pretty sure most black people I know here have at least one parent of West Indian descent.

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more Hispanics moving in than Blacks. For obvious reasons. The hospitality sector mainly employs Mexicans to do the work. Ditto construction. You'll see some Dominicans in hospitality and construction as well.
I was gonna say, I would guess that many Mexican immigrants work in restaurants in Manhattan and Brownstone Brooklyn, so their families move into places that are conveniently located and (relatively speaking) affordable. I don't think we'll see many Mexicans move East of Flatbush.

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The only Black neighborhoods that don't have an influx of whites or hispanics would be perhaps the ones in Southeast Queens. Bedstuy and Flatbush have gentrification going on, which is starting to touch even Brownsville and East New York.
East Flatbush, Flatlands, Canarsie, Brownsville, etc. don't seem to have an influx of whites or Hispanics. Nor do the North Bronx neighborhoods East of say, Norwood.

Bedstuy and Flatbush are more centrally located and thus more desirable in general.
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